Is it possible to create and develop the art market without kommodifikatsii art?

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Seriy

wharf, I have a few days after visiting the exhibition "World of Painting and Sculpture" could not write. The impression that the artists producing completely plugged all the holes. All that can only imagine the potential buyer-produced, packaged, each option, in three sizes and five color variations.

you're so vain. The exhibition makes depressing yvpechatlenie. Ra bots as specifically gray or dark. No sparkle and delight. Abstraction quite some dirt, which would really turn around. Grechina well but hung far in the darkness, no more than perhaps anyone. Both works Salakhova written hastily and completely built, all vvypiraet climbs or falls. Window turned into a balcony, a window grille. The tower itself sticks out to the forefront and not stay in the plane of the picture. portrait of a woman simply bad. The dark spot looks zalepuhoy without plans and cut in tone. Even Tsereteli itself does not look like or just like-kakoyto gray.
Many can be seen that the work done to the occasion of the exhibition.

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

A u menia byl sluchai s fotografami - kupili!!!

Ia skazal, chto eto byla vysshaia professional'naia otsenka - fotograf u fotografa kupil !

I also know the individual cases, but this "exceptio probat regulam in casibus non exceptis"

[Seriy]

Pavel, I was on the artistic merit from the standpoint of eternity can not speak.
Abstraction is black? eat. A gray? eat. A red and white? eat. And yellow? eat. And on the canvas in rosettes? eat. And of pieces of foam? eat. And what would the inclusion of iron? eat.
Tsereteli is written on a green ground with a stroke ultramarine - how can it be gray?

[LCR]

Сообщение от Berth

And yet - the artists, even more than security - do not buy paintings

You know, artists who can afford it, buy a painting of his brethren. I can cite an example of Vadim Zakharov, his collection was recently shown in the NCCA (of course, part of the work was donated or exchanged, but most of the yet purchased).
There are other examples, in particular, I can totally record that Roginsky artists began to buy the work before, and bought them more often than representatives of other socio-professional categories - and in France (in fact, except for artists, nobody here was buying ), and in Russia (where, fortunately, bought not only artists)

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Сообщение от LCR

You know, artists who can afford it, buy a painting of his brethren. I can cite an example of Vadim Zakharov, his collection was recently shown in the NCCA (of course, part of the work was donated or exchanged, but most of the yet purchased).
There are other examples, in particular, I can totally record that Roginsky artists began to buy the work before, and bought them more often than representatives of other socio-professional categories - and in France (in fact, except for artists, nobody here was buying ), and in Russia (where, fortunately, bought not only artists)

Yet it is not a mass phenomenon. Oh it would seem, these people should be prepared all the polls to buy pictures on reaching opedelennogo living . "But no. The proportion of buyers of paintings of artists no more than buyers of art among all mankind.
Exchanges of gifts, but there. And it is more outgoing, or almost gone, the tradition.

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Сообщение от Berth

exchanges gifts, so there. And it is more outgoing, or almost gone, the tradition.

Now, it seems, already tired of the artists painting. From his and others'. Exhibitions-only previews, meet, see each other, hang out, someone a drink ...
Galleries-see who that exposes for sale, to hear from the gallery owners that it is better "is" go to "explore".
Today is hard to imagine an artist from the province, which is specifically go to Moscow to watch any show.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Seriy

Pavel, I was on the artistic merit from the standpoint of eternity can not speak.
Abstraction is black? eat. A gray? eat. A red and white? eat. And yellow? eat. And on the canvas in rosettes? eat. And of pieces of foam? eat. And what would the inclusion of iron? eat.
Tsereteli is written on a green ground with a stroke ultramarine - how can it be gray?

There you have all the abstraction made. It is hard to be original so abstract ends. Remained masters.
And about Tseriteli-I do not know how it turns out, had to be gray, but be bright, he does not know how.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Now, it seems, already tired of the artists paintings. From his and others'. Exhibitions-only previews, meet, see each other, hang out, someone a drink ...
Galleries-see who that exposes for sale, to hear from the gallery owners that it is better "is" go to "explore".
Today is hard to imagine an artist from the province, which is specifically go to Moscow to watch any show.
All the impressions of someone else's painting many nyneshnik ukladyvantsya in it:

You know this is probably out of envy, but I like Matisse.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Ia perediorgivaniem, v printsipe ne zanimaius', ne v moih pravilah. No raz uz nachali, to kakie tsifry vy imeete v vidu?

And how would you qualify your statement about non-existent auction? (Where is your artist's work was sold more than a guitar McCartney, by the way, how and for how much, konkrenno? Auction criminal or what? (Underground, that information is nowhere to find. Explain, good people, to me, old fool, what is it?)
Or is the style of a (professional) is called: "la-la"?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Now, it seems, already tired of the artists paintings. From his and others'. Exhibitions-only previews, meet, see each other, hang out, someone a drink ...

The farther from the capital, the less tired, of course. Xx like me with an exhibition in Nyagan met. As pop star nearly
In Moscow, probably already do not be enticed. We gladly go only to "their". There are, of course, such Party People that do not you call and come . But more often it is minor artists. "All" comes only at the funeral.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Galleries-see who that exposes for sale, to hear from the gallery owners that it is better "is" go to "explore".

That's right.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Today is hard to imagine an artist from the province, which is specifically go to Moscow to watch any show.

There is unity.
I know some of our artists, who regularly goes to all the local fairs are not on the opening day, and look.

And it is one, who goes off somewhere. But the unit - it is not in all cases of emotional burnout, often from a lack of funds.

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Сообщение от Berth

exhibition in Nyagan

It should be clear that this is not Nyagan-Nagano.