Fakes ... Fakes ...

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Сообщение от Seriy

This is the Art Market

No, this is the farm market, where, except for potatoes and onions, you can even buy toilet paper, socks, newspapers, and "now" ...
- Oh, Wan, and let's have this picture will buy?
- No, Zin, I do not want the river ... That's deer that he had once been, so let the deer and then buy. Slysh, man, and deer will be more?

[Seriy]

Cyril Syzransky, I think this market is real and primary.
And that is why Kara, sends data to òîïèêîì nick, selling pictures in Ineta for $ 40, will never overtake. And catches his gratitude to the hundreds of people-customers, with whom everyone wants to be found.

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Сообщение от Seriy

And that is why Kara, sends data to òîïèêîì nick, selling pictures in Ineta for $ 40, will never overtake.

And God forbid, if not overtake ...
And who is this Karu sends something?
Yes, and sends it all?


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Сообщение от Seriy

I think this market is real and primary.

The word "market" has several meanings.
For example:
* set the conditions by which buyers and sellers of goods (services) are in contact with each other in order to purchase or sale of goods (services).
* The economic relations associated with the exchange of goods and services, which are formed as a result of demand, supply and price.
 * Place retail edible products and commodities in the open air or in the ranks of the trade; Bazaar.
You probably closer to the last?
I also sometimes interesting to look like the County to our market-the biggest and richest in the Middle Volga region, as they say.
You can see and buy some tasty rarity, for example, home kazi from neighboring Kazakhstan or shuzhuk, dried horsemeat (Suret-o), Kurt from the same ...
But now??

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Сообщение от Seriy

OlegTsi, to listen to you, so there is a market for art auctions, Provenance, experts and detailed kolektsionerov originals.

A hudoznikov zabyli !

This is not so. This is a secondary superstructure and recent. A primary is simply to make beautiful. And the primary will always win secondary.

Krasivo, eto sub'ektivnaia shtuka, vspomnite kommentarii k Pikassovym devushkam, o tom, chto krasota bol'she znacheniia ne imeet.

 Because most people do not care about auctions, provenance - they want to hang on the wall a beautiful picture, but do not enjoy the catalogs of auctions and dzhipegami.

Da bol'shinstvu liudei "spit on" iskusstvo, kak takovoe. Futbol'chik pod pivko!

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

 * Place retail edible products and commodities in the open air or in the ranks of the trade; Bazaar. [/I]

Kirill, vy budete smeiat'sia, no imenno tak vsio i nachinalos'.

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Eto i byl rynok, a auktsiony torgovali rabami!

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

Kirill, vy budete smeiat'sia, no imenno tak vsio i nachinalos'.

I have not forgotten all remember ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I have not forgotten all remember ...

A menia v roli auktsionera pomnite ?

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

Eto i byl rynok, a auktsiony torgovali rabami!

Yes, the market square and the head is cut.
That was something good, then you and "eat", then you and "spectacle" ...

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

A menia v roli auktsionera pomnite?

And you do not mask been there, not with an ax you?

[Seriy]

Cyril Syzransky, well, some nick erase their messages, although better than first thought, than then wash. :-)
I will not repeat Alexander, he said.

Regarding the forum, I, of course, a beginner, but I have the impression that there is a clear bias towards the secondary market. It is significant that the artist Yevgeny forgotten in the list of subjects of the market.
Compare, as highlighted ArtManezh, ArtMoscow and describes how a thread unimportant auction in the U.S.. Talk about the primary market, sales trends, ridicule. Worth in the abstract state primary creator of the topography prices, as there immediately vysmeivateli.
And I have somehow convinced that the big money is made on the primary market. And a thread of White Cube in month to furnish income antique gallery for a year.
So in terms of investments such disregard for the primary market is not sure that is correct.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Yes, the market square and the head is cut.
That was something good, then you and "eat", then you and "spectacle" ...

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Have you not been there the mask, not with an ax there?

Usnali , hotia, posle raboty ia masku snimal .

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Сообщение от Seriy

impression that there is a clear bias towards the secondary market.

Govoria ob investitsiiah, eto spravedlivo. Dohod poluchaetsia ot pereprodazi, poetomu pervichnyi rynok eto otdel'noe suschestvo, ego v investitsionnyi protsess mmozno vkliuchat 'so mnogimi ogovorkami.


And I have somehow convinced that the big money is made on the primary market. And a thread of White Cube in month to furnish income antique galleries for the year.

Zdes' ia s vami soglasen. Na pervichnom rynke delaetsia bol'she deneg, chem na vtorichnom, no eto ne investitsionnyi protsess, a rashodnyi.

Iteresno o White Cube, moia galereia byla nazvana, kak polnaia protivopoloznost 'emu: Black Sphere. Real'no

So in terms of investments such disregard for the primary market is not sure what is right.

Ob'iom prodaz i investitsii, eto raznye kategorii.

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Hotia investitsionnyi potentsial pervichnogo rynka, ne iskliuchaiu.

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Сообщение от Seriy

So in terms of investments such disregard for the primary market is not sure that is correct.

Well, let's compare the market of painting with the market literature, music, cinema.
For example, I see everything, everything, to read and listen to the head did not come.
I wait, when all is "eat", look at the reaction, read reviews and then to-be-read something, about three years after publication or toe, listen, perhaps, something that is somewhere someone then turns that into the repertoire of serious artists, etc. Since the movie easy-successful insurance scheme soon I will turn away from view, and where the prize-nibudb in San Sebastian will draw on the film and the author of my attention.
So painting.
I will not "catch" the genius of every ar-arena, Art-Moscow ... I feel sorry for myself, I've seen enough so every Labuda, that even posveschat this time? Uh-uh, not only discreet, anyway. Better to look for expensive tops and hits, and even then, not all ...