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Old 31-10-2008, 14:17 Original language: Russian        #11
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And this is based on what? 1930.1950 very close, pigments which were not in 1930? Or something else?
on the technological expertise ... in the study paints segment, tie ... By the way, now there is technology that allows to determine the pictures that were made before the Second World War. Following the nuclear explosions in the atmosphere of the planet appeared some element that is present all over now, which was not before, respectively.
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on the technological expertise
But to be (unless of course it is possible), about the pigments is not in vain, I asked a question ..



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And specifically possible (unless of course it is possible), about the pigments is not in vain, I asked the question ..
specifically describe how to carry out technological expertise?
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Meister, Alkyd polymers were invented in 1930, acrylic polymers - in 1935, vinyl - in 1937, these polymers were used initially in the form of solutions in organic solvents, and since 1949 in the form of water dispersions http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=8175
I am very interested in how the experts have determined that the work of 30-ies, was the work of the 50's. (I understand the basis they took pigments? Which was not in 30-s?)



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Eugene, it was one of the examples may also be 10 against 35, and 50 to 70, etc.
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this was one of the examples,
I thought that was a specific technological expertise, and it could be discussed ..



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Eugene, a very similar situation was an example of qwerty, only the post had to find where art-consulting number 1 was.
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Here's an interesting link http://www.izvestia.ru/investigation/article3122208/
Now up: expert - is nothing more than exchanges of specialists for the money.



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fig article from the category of "directory fakes"
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fig article from the category of "directory fakes"
I found it interesting article contained in the scheme of the discharge "carefully concealed":
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In the "Izvestia" asked the director of the Theater an old romance Nikolay Semenov .

- I had a genuine work of Karl Briullov "Turk", - tells his story Nikolai Semenov. - As we know, Bryullov were several variants of the Turk. One of them hangs in the Tretyakov Gallery. Painting I inherited from my father, and he bought it in Leningrad in 1945 to a collector. When six years ago we moved to Moscow, the Tretyakov Gallery has asked for my picture exhibition. Well-known expert on Briullov expert Alexei Kovalev gave the opinion on the authenticity of the painting. After that I began to insistently call the owners of antique shops with a request to sell the masterpiece. In 2006, I brought the "Turk" in the Salon "La Boheme". Owner Alexander Hachinsky now estimated at 7.5 million rubles, and promised to pay within three days. But, after I received the picture, started hiding from me. Six months later, said that the picture is a fake. This conclusion allegedly made by experts of the Russian Museum. I believe that he took a picture in St. Petersburg, to make a copy of it. A script to assign. I had no choice but to go to the police.

The owner of gallery "La Boheme" has its own version of history with a picture Briullov.

- Indeed the Russian Museum experts have reviewed the pictures, despite the fact that Semenov had a few conclusions about the authenticity, including the center Grabar - says "Izvestia" Alexander Hachinsky. - But today, such opinions can be bought in any expert center. Competence Center of the Russian Museum is not sullied by scandal. So I go there and turned. The experts found that the picture actually written during the life Bryullov, but not Bryullov. Perhaps it copied the student's art school. Since Semenov declined to pick up your copy, Salon sold it at auction for 80 thousand rubles as a copy.

The total amount spent on expenses for examination and for storing pictures. In the criminal case against the owner of the salon "La Boheme" was denied. The investigation did not reveal the fraud. Senior Investigator Irina Dotsenko, performing the inspection, referred to more employment and the official declined comment. As we have seen a hundred and eighty cases of criminal cases on fraud in the field of antiques is not excited. First of all, because of discrepancies in the conclusions of experts.



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