Three gouaches

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Volodya
 I'm sure that will not work and 10 years old and you, as a capable and quick learner person to change their opinion. We have before us a real painter, t.e.hudozhnik, able (feeling) how to put one color next to another in order to produce harmony. In terms of painting - this is an order of magnitude higher than Malevich and many, many, many others.
I think you have already mastered a concept - sense of color without which, in my opinion, there can be a painter.

Do not think that I am pursuing "their" artist. Not at all. This is exactly the case when an artist is much better person. Example with factories, houses, steamboats brought only as a fact that such orders are received this artist. That is, it is relatively high demand in the medium of the sensory and appreciating art.

[klimvor]

Another "genius" painter

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от ranzher

In my opinion, this modern art

 And now with the argument - to judge art work, you need to have information about the artist, strongly disagree. Let's enjoy the music, not overlooking the fact that its author Salieri (wine which, moreover, is not proven).

Let! I'm really against it? But you asked about anything other than "music"? O. ..

Сообщение от ranzher

... commercial importance of these works ...

And as can be seen on the commercial side of art without understanding its positioning in the market?

So I'm not trying to judge these gouache paintings based on information about the artist, and tried to answer that part of your post where you ask about the "commercial value" of these works.

This may well be more than once happened that good artists are not worth anything, but insignificant cost more money. This is a market. In addition, and was my question.

While at the same time, I believe that works of art need to buy if the fullest possible information about the artist. Of course, if we are not talking about cents.

[artcol]

Сообщение от ranzher

Volodya
 I'm sure that will not work and 10 years old and you, as a capable and quick learner person to change their opinion. We have before us a real painter, t.e.hudozhnik, able (feeling) how to put one color next to another in order to produce harmony. In terms of painting - this is an order of magnitude higher than Malevich and many, many, many others.
I think that you have already mastered a concept - a sense of color, without which, in my opinion, can not be a painter.

Do not think that I am pursuing "their" artist. Not at all. This is exactly the case when an artist is much better person. Example with factories, houses, steamboats brought only as a fact that such orders are received this artist. That is, it is relatively high demand in the medium of the sensory and appreciating art.

An interesting prediction, but here is whether it will come true? In general, similar to the experimental constructivism soveyskogo spill years since the 70's. Sketches from the creative laboratory for Mr. manufacturing plant.

[таша]

Сообщение от Posav

If such pictures were painted 100 years ago, we could say that if it was new originally. Now these songs are doing on the first course in the first half as the familiarization with the principles of formal composition. What is not clear now paint

Posav, in art is not always most important innovation. Well if the breakthrough into the unknown is present, but not all artists are innovators. I'm not saying that this artist a genius, but what is art and good quality, obviously. Symptoms otlichayushie these pictures on a variety of other work in this direction is, his face in there, there are still some unspeakable feelings (perhaps a certain "softness" and, as said ranzher, harmony), which attract. In art, all a matter of nuances, in my opinion.

Сообщение от ranzher

Generally speaking, he is ready to fulfill orders. For example, could in the same vein, do a portrait of your plant, factory or estate.

Although willingness to reproduce the reception did not speak in favor of the artist

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

as can be seen on the commercial side of art without understanding its positioning in the market?

Imagine that you are highly educated and experienced auctioneer, specializing in contemporary painting. Your task is to sell lots at the maximum price. (Similar goals and a gallery owner). You have brought to sell works by the artist, whose name is not abstracted in the media and in specialized publications. However, you as a person highly educated, experienced and in addition has nezamylenym eye and instinct can see that in front of you exercises amateur or mediocre Mazilu, and the thing is aesthetically and technically accomplished at the level of the world's best in the field of contemporary art. You should appreciate it.
Your actions?

I should add that you, as a professional with high sample are well aware that in addition to ignorant buyers from undeveloped taste, following in their Buying Tips kinds of "specialists", fashion magazines, "artinvestitsionnyh" Web resources and just a monkey sense that if is in X, it should be and I have, there are collectors, perfectly versed in the heart of the matter, relying on their intuition and erudition, and, thus, not constrained in the media.

Of course, you look at what is happening in the market in this segment. For our case, above all, should apply to the prices of the founder of this direction, neo-geo, Peter Halley. He formatted the work currently being sold in the range of 40-60 thousand dollars. Another participant in this market, the only Russian in the famous gallery Denis Rene, Yuri yellow. His paintings gallery sells for 15-30 thousand euros. Thus, we have a price target. From an aesthetic point of view of our artist do not concede, the works of these authors, but in relation to yellowish and excel. But the founder of the directions, and do not know about this neophyte, are already known and accepted by the market. Cledovatelno similar in format and technique now estimate at 30-40%lower. Somewhere in the vicinity of 20 thousand dollars. Gouache is smaller on labor costs and materials. The preliminary score: 5 thousand dollars for the size of 45H60 and 3 thousand dollars for those that are smaller. From this perspective, and auctioned off and see to confirm the market or not, our professional conclusions, having, of course, given that in any auction there is always the element of chance. Ie not passed on this auction, do not repeat the following.

Сообщение от Tasha

While the willingness reproduced reception does not speak in favor of the artist

Propagate reception can not be duplicated products using the reception. Dark Artist is doing. But this is not our case. The presented work a decade ago. Author in technology and techniques went on, the principle remains - in his compositions depict images of complex social patterns, urban landscapes, and simple objects that surround us.

[artcol]

Сообщение от ranzher

Imagine that you are highly educated and experienced auctioneer, specializing in contemporary painting. Your task is to sell lots at the maximum price. (Similar goals and a gallery owner). You have brought to sell works by the artist, whose name is not abstracted in the media and in specialized publications. However, you as a person highly educated, experienced and in addition has nezamylenym eye and instinct can see that in front of you exercises amateur or mediocre Mazilu, and the thing is aesthetically and technically accomplished at the level of the world's best in the field of contemporary art. You should appreciate it.
You do?

I should add that you, as a professional with high sample are well aware that in addition to ignorant buyers from undeveloped taste, following in their Buying Tips kinds of "specialists", fashion magazines, "artinvestitsionnyh" Web resources and just a monkey sense that if is in X, it should be and I have, there are collectors, perfectly versed in the heart of the matter, relying on their intuition and erudition, and, thus, not constrained in the media.

Of course, you look at what is happening in the market in this segment. For our case, above all, should apply to the prices of the founder of this direction, neo-geo, Peter Halley. He formatted the work currently being sold in the range of 40-60 thousand dollars. Another participant in this market, the only Russian in the famous gallery Denis Rene, Yuri yellow. His paintings are gallery sells for 15-30 thousand euros. Thus, we have a price target. From an aesthetic point of view of our artist do not concede, the works of these authors, but in relation to yellowish and excel. But the founder of the directions, and do not know about this neophyte, are already known and accepted by the market. Cledovatelno similar to the format and technology now estimate at 30-40%lower. Somewhere in the vicinity of 20 thousand dollars. Gouache is smaller on labor costs and materials. The preliminary score: 5 thousand dollars for the size of 45H60 and 3 thousand dollars for those that are smaller. From this perspective, and auctioned off and look to confirm the market or not, our professional conclusions, having, of course, given that at any auction is always an element of randomness. Ie not passed on this auction, do not repeat the following.



Propagate reception can not be duplicated products using the reception. Dark Artist is doing. But this is not our case. The presented work a decade ago. Author in technology and techniques went on, the principle remains - in his compositions depict images of complex social patterns, urban landscapes, and simple objects that surround us.

Formatted work is interesting. This acrylic? In the first paper is visible label. If it does not work by Russian artist - the price is not a surprise, and although she mb taken from the ceiling to the fact there is a special reason (about the pricing of abstraction have already written on this forum).

Shl read it carefully - knew whose it work.

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The aspect of work: the first two, Peter Halley, the other two - Yuri Jeltova. Illustration to the discussion. In Zheltova acrylic, the Halley more complicated technology.

[artcol]

Сообщение от ranzher

So, we already have a price target. From an aesthetic point of view of our artist do not concede, the works of these authors, but in relation to yellowish and excel.

Yes, great! Now only about Paul recalled

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Сообщение от ranzher

The aspect of work: the first two, Peter Halley, the other two - Yuri Jeltova. Illustration to the discussion. In Zheltova acrylic, the Halley more complicated technique.

Thanks for the explanation, it is now all clear. At Halley work with more pronounced individual start, with Zheltov - Emasculated idea, an empty formalism.

[NATA NOVA]

And for some reason it seems that this temperature ... (not gouache)