Lost in the anchor

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

All porcelain mass production.

Well, of course, but when the circulation of many thousands of stenciling is one thing, but when the hand-painted - is another.

There generally seems to be a stencil.

Although hand-painted, too, nothing as such, does not say.

[Любознательный]

Cyril Syzranskiy, "But, in my opinion, not very old."
What and confusing.

[NEO]

curious, mark 18 th century, but not old thing? How's that?
Maybe Derby?
And why the bottom looks old, the impression that artificially old metal sponge. Stigma is not stripped?
IMHO, do not be too harsh

[Игорь Гурьев]

Comrades, stylistically it is someone like the 18 th century?

I - no end.

Rather shapeless structure, made in the mid 20 th century, when the form is just lost in all, including even such a master of the form from another form of art, as Deineka, for example, or Picasso.

[NEO]

Igor Guriev, totally agree!

[Любознательный]

It's very nice, almost all were sentenced to Sarnitsa screen painting. Even without looking at the attached photos.
In the picture message 1 in the middle (three quarters) have same pictures on the front and the side wall Sarnitsa. They have no relation to the pattern.
Tray native - not zastarenny artificially. He just did not specially washed free - to confirm the time by the nature of hand lapping the sole product (see the risks to the scanned soles). Of particular note is that the stamp was subjected to grinding of (see the first of the now attached photo).
This thing is a kind of dissonance. Perhaps because of the traditional technologies lag from conception of the artist. This is what attracted the early European porcelain. His mistakes, which are now no longer even repeats craftsman. Having learned from the experience of their predecessors.
It is difficult to agree with the view inexpressiveness (formlessness) products. No accounting for tastes - attached Maker Malevich (middle photo), it really looks different.
But the textured surface (not linked to the painting) table of products characterized as products under the early and mid 18 th century. Return to the textured surface of table items in the first third of the 20 th century occurred on a different circuit technology development Porcelain affairs and other tastes of the public (artists).
And the last comment. Flow-line production really allows you to achieve mass production. The price of technology changes with the simultaneous loss of quality. Hand-painting begin to be only unique things. There was a decal.
And in this case, we have no means a unique little thing, with over-and underglaze painting. Must submit themselves how she was fired. As a result, one of them fired at Sarnitsa flowed one of the walls - but the product is not a thing of the marriage (see the last of the attached photo).
And it says it a lot. First of all, on the creation of work - no later than 18 centuries.
I think so. Dissuade me could not.
Thanks to everyone who took part in the discussion.

[U_Z]

Сообщение от inquisitive

First of all, about the time of the creation of work - not later than 18 th century.
I think so. Dissuade me could not.

Excuse me, but can only smile after reading your latest post. Good luck! 18-th century, since 1918

[Любознательный]

If the case had nothing to say, then, excuse me, what sets?

[Игорь Гурьев]

In general, so.

Today I met with a specialist in porcelain and showed him the photo.

He said that this is the end of 1919 - early 20 th century, probably Sweden.

What is exactly not 18 century.

Cost can be as much greater than 2 thousand ve.

[NEO]

Igor Guriev, Gustavsberg?