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[uriart]

And this, is not modern?

[Amateur]

Beautiful, hard to argue. But probably something I do not understand . "If that is modern, then what is it?

[U_Z]

Сообщение от Amateur

If that is the modern

There is a modern European, Scandinavian, Russian (in my opinion, this rethinking-adaptation "Russian style" in the early 20 century).

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Сообщение от U_Z

Russian (in my opinion, this rethinking-adaptation "Russian style" in the early 20 century).

Yes, of course ...
Can not, in my view to approach the Russian icon so "in the forehead," comparing it with the photo frame.

Сообщение от Amateur

Even time-they were written before the appearance of this style, because they were created in 1884 (Vrubel) and from 1885 to 1896 (Vasnetsov). As you mentioned Alphonse Mucha and his no less gifted followers in France, Germany, Russia and other countries worked in the period from 1895 to about 1914, after which the modern "out of fashion".

Earlier, all the same, with the end of the 60's even.
But to argue that something? See for yourself the date of the first things that later, of course, to ascribe to the pulleys to modernity.

Сообщение от LCR

Well, on the painting, I rather agree with Amateur'om,

Could the faces on the icon to be really quite art nouveau, the faces of the same ...

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Сообщение от Amateur

then what is it?

This is a harsh modern .

[Аркадий]

Amateur, but such an icon you would to any style attributed? Top 20 veka.Oklada not here, I hope this fact does not leave room for ambiguity ..

[Amateur]

Well ... I'm just Amateur, but not a deep expert on Art Nouveau . Yes, I agree, at your icon you can see the elements of Art Nouveau. Generally, boards Veronica readily depicted by artists who worked in this style. I saw the picture, very similar to you, on the ceiling of the church in Balingste (Balingsta kyrka) 20 km SW of Uppsala (Sweden). Author - artist Philip Monsson Filip Månsson (1864 - 1933), which is often painted and renovated by painting in the ancient church, in doing so, as it is now cautiously expressed, "with elements of Art Nouveau. Unfortunately, the picture of this painting I have not been preserved, on the Internet I also could not find it. But there is a photo of his painting of the altar from another church - in Alsike (Alsike kyrka). The church was built at the end of the XIII century, but the ancient murals have been preserved only fragmentary, and were supplemented Monssonom in 1910 - 11 years. The descriptions says that they contain "elements of modernism." Judge for yourself whether this is (for me personally, there are these elements - enough to swear). Interestingly, the altar of the body, whose form though and makes an impression architecture of the modern age, in fact original, ie preserved since the construction of the church. And the left side of photo on top of the column is visible floral designs. Faded slightly blurred. This - the remains of an ancient painting of the XV century. In my opinion, they more modern than in the paintings Monssona.

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Сообщение от Ruff

early 20 th century.

I looked at the face of the icons and portraits of Victor Vasnetsov remember.

[Аркадий]

All it likely that the "pure" modern (so to speak) in Russian icon painting is quite rare, most often an amalgam of styles, say neo-Russian (neoross) and modern, which is characteristic of icon painting in the early 20 veka.No shown my icon just painting pronounced modernistic stilya.Vot this Christ (Lot 293) is also attributed to modernity, as Ironically .. "though the style in comparison with my malovyrazhen, IMHO.

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Сообщение от Ruff

Here is the Savior (Lot 293) is also attributed to modernity, strangely .. Although the style in comparison to my malovyrazhen, IMHO.

Icon discerned something 10 times from start of treatment.