Theft, fraud

[v_r]

Сообщение от dedulya37

I prefer the current owners know that they possess stolen property.
A potential future owners will also know about it.
Indeed, if you wish, you can restore the entire chain.
And illegal owners can declare an amnesty to confirm authorship of the family.

totally agree with the distinguished dedulya37
There is no desire to swim in the mud.
Paintings that in no way guilty. They were not created in order to hide them and what you fear.

[Konstantin]

Initiative is very correct, has recently crossed with some officials (especially not speak nor where nor when, nor with anyone, anything will change) and he said that they have a database of stolen artworks, through the Ministry of Internal Affairs. I invited him to post it on our site. In response, the official said five minutes, all of the words were understandable, but the general sense was absent. In the words of the person I thought of the idea he does not think: either useful, if feasible, and may I did not looked, about the site did not hear anything.

If you start to spread yourself here, how to avoid bullying? How to check the truth or it is stolen hex?

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Сообщение от Konstantin

If you start to spread yourself here, how to avoid bullying? How to check the truth or it is stolen hex?

This is already a serious conversation, I think that in this situation you have to give the real names of the authors of the theft and their contacts can keep it all in the administration forum. Somehow ...

[gorelov]

By the way:

"Turnover" black art market in Russia ranges from $ 300 million to $ 1.5 billion ", article in Izvestia newspaper on 30.08.04: "Turnover" black market ", for obvious reasons, it is difficult to calculate. According to some estimates, it amounts to 300 million dollars, on the other - half a billion. That is, at least two, and even in ten times the turnover of the "white market", which is written "Izvestia", is equal to approximately 150 million (including, again, foreign purchases of our collectors).

Why is this happening, of course: no one wants to shine their collections (fear), no one wants to pay taxes (toad strangling), and indeed, why overpay. After all "white" thing is lighted by two or even more times more expensive than the "black". That is flourishing black market in the interest of all: the sellers who, of course, and we are happy to sell something more expensive, but then have to pay taxes, and buyers to save their dreams, and, strangely enough, the state, which, strictly speaking simply does not interfere ".

That is a bit ridiculous to resent the criminal actions of one who himself is entirely criminalized. "A thief from a thief stole a stick" is shorter.

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Сообщение от gorelov

That is a bit ridiculous to resent the criminal actions of one who himself is entirely criminalized.

This is you talking about the art market?

[gorelov]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Did you about the art market?

Yes, yes, about the participants of the so-called "art market".

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Сообщение от gorelov

Yes, yes, about the participants of the so-called "art market".

And what was particularly a criminal?
Taxes are not paid, so you do not know the tax laws, I see ...
Ask about taxes from the sale of antiques.
In Gelos go and talk to Oleg Ignatov, you as a deliverer should know about "their" taxes.

[gorelov]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

And what was particularly criminal?
Taxes are not paid, so you do not know the tax laws, I see ...
Ask about taxes from the sale of antiques.
In Gelos go, pogovarite with Oleg Ignatov, you as a deliverer should know about "their" taxes.

Pogov for Rita is written, by the way, and I know about taxes, I learned from a bag of them, that is, "Gelos" notify the tax inspectorate.

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Сообщение от gorelov

Talk

I corrected immediately, sorry for such "flaws", an expert on spelling ...

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Сообщение от gorelov

"Gelos" notify the tax inspectorate.

Written by request of Tax at the place of your registration, by the way ...

[gorelov]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I have corrected immediately, sorry for such "flaws", an expert on spelling ...

In the old days for a shot, do not know what?