Artist Daniel Belov

[ANATOLY]

Сообщение от Daniil_Belov; 2935531"

Daniil_Belov

Daniel looked at your work , not as an artist and not a critic, but as a buyer. Everything seems right, all calibrated , but not enough that it takes the soul probably aching honesty. Look at your work " blooming rape " moving into the field of Russia - such fields I've seen in the U.S. alone , all styled . Same colors, no weed , none of the broken and fallen bush . Ride the field Ryazanschine , Tula, Lipetsk, when rape blossoms and you'll understand why A.Plastov drew a rapid flowering fields of Russia and that you will not see in Europe. Good luck to you .

[Daniil_Belov]

Nata, you're right , it is experience that can not be called until I started doing this in earnest only in May 2013 . So just talk a little bit about which way to go .

At the moment I have a very strong strategy on how to improve the value of my name on the basis of small resources. For its development over the past months have been spent and my ( and, of course , not only my ) time. This estimate assumes it is not something that I 'm proud of myself , narcissist , or something , but what I am really sure that it is objectively good and its first results confirm this. It would be unwise of me to share about ArtInvestirovanie writing differently <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

In general, the idea is this : Use the Internet with its huge number of viewers who , in addition, unlike traditional ways do not remain passive, and with whom you can build long-term communication ( with someone deeper with someone less ) . And use the Internet not just as artists do in the West : I actively watch what is happening there , and among the artists online promotion there too often lame. My goal - to make it all the way it is done at the advanced level in other areas of advancement in the West, in a good sense . That is not to artificially push themselves everywhere for big money , and do something really interesting people and make sure that they even know about the existence of this interesting .

So for the moment , I focused only on working with the Internet and traditional things such as exhibitions so far does not affect if not collect them for friends is to make them cool and return on investment have yet to learn a lot, I'm still trying to learn something one as it should. Exception: CHA salon in March , as there are some really interesting opportunities , among other parties, I also exhibited there . Well, or at such exhibitions are " tucked " and does not require me to costly.

At the same time I am not guided by Russian-speaking Internet, and work directly with the world - to me it's easier. So now I know more foreign audiences and artists than Russian . Although I am , of course, the future should greatly increase the numbers of both those .

Of this strategy is currently ready prototypes of most of its elements: a prototype site, partially prototype website content that will be in addition to paintings, prototype work with social networks . For example , starting at Twitter, here, for example , a prototype of the blog tumbler (« Blooming " has a relatively large number of " likes " , as the work was selected team toggle to show in their " radar . " " Radar " is a small window in each user account , where each hour they show a few selected images. Since work published elsewhere on the dolly , can not tolerate my own huskies , the number of likes on my blog displays only those results that on the surface , rather than their sum. )

In addition to this, I have a clear understanding of what to do next , and I think I already get quite prove , if necessary , that what I'm doing , work as the first results and examples.
 
Naturally, there is all sorts of details and problems that the first time is not easy to solve : even though more or less work to digitize the first was a daunting task , so for the past six months has done a very big way .

Right now in the first build up a job with social networks ( and sites like them ) . Each of them has its own characteristics , their development takes time and work. Currently such sites and networks that I actively explore probably about twenty , and their communities with whom I have been working for about 200-300 . Of course, some of them are effective , some simply to justify the time spent on them, some are rejected - there often until you try - you will not understand .

How will I be able to implement its strategy and to what extent - it depends on whether I have the minimum required for this flow of money for paintings: besides my time to implement such a task and need other people's work , and it is not always free, as and many tools that should be used. So now in front of me is a big task to understand how to achieve this flow. Probably the most sensible thing would be to learn how to go to people who are interested to buy my paintings for investment purposes ( I do not expect growth to millions of dollars , but the price of world-famous painter - it is quite possible ) . Will it come out? Probably will naturally unfolding as to promote the Internet as well as in the course of this I meet lots of interesting people , but if it will work before - do not know yet . If you will be too late, conceived to achieve the results will be much more difficult , although my name will cost still more than if I did not do anything <! - ~ 1 ~ -> . In general , I'm not so much worried about how to make progress, everything is quite worked out , it remains to embody , and how to find the minimum resources to it.

I am sorry that in general terms, but I am ready to disclose details is only for those who are seriously interested in buying for investment purposes .

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Сообщение от ANATOLY

Daniel, looked at your work , not as an artist and not a critic, but as a buyer. Everything seems right, all calibrated , but not enough that it takes the soul probably aching honesty. Look at your work " blooming rape " moving into the field of Russia - such fields I've seen in the U.S. alone , all styled . Same colors, no weed , none of the broken and fallen bush . Ride the field Ryazanschine , Tula, Lipetsk, when rape blossoms and you'll understand why A.Plastov drew a rapid flowering fields of Russia and that you will not see in Europe. Good luck to you .

Anatoly is really a set of colors that I use in the narrower than Plastov . Set of flowers Andrew Wyeth even narrower than me. I hesitate to say it is good or bad in itself , without regard to my work . In each of his work, I try to solve certain problems and come up with these tasks under the appropriate artistic expression in the form of technical solutions and style. I write the way I write, not because I do not know how different, and not because I was so taught , but because it seems to me is the most successful solution to this image. In order to achieve this I rework some of the work in a new way . One of the works of large works, I 'll redo the third time.

I was fortunate to learn from many respected people ( not only me, but also others) , which had its own idea of ​​painting. They can not stand each other's opinions , but that does not mean that objectively one of them was cool master , and some bad. Hard to somehow understand what is the case and why it happens , I 'm working on (more finish work soon the defense) in his Ph.D. work.

About myself - I think that I still have a lot to grow in terms of skill , and I 'm trying really hard to do it. I should note that I try a lot of attention to the nuances of color relationships , unfortunately, very bad picture is transmitted first, digitized with accurate - an extremely difficult task , and secondly, different monitors very different show one file one blue - green is on the other - that has a plurality of colors, one shown . Often find myself thinking about what this or that picture looks primitive past masters in color online, and then I remember my own experience and understand how the internet until that "eats" color. Here is an example A.Plastovym :


(I hope I'm right, and it's not a copy , but really different photos. On my monitor they look completely different in color )

Here is an example with my work . Here the old version of the image :

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/attach...1&d=1372626348

And here is a little more quality made :

http://www.daniil-belov.com/#! neseb...azh-maslo/c21o

There is already a bit much that the sky is not really a simple blue color and is made up of a complex gradation . I really devote complexity color nuances much attention , for example, in the big picture , sky writing may take me a week of pure time work. Again , I stress that I agree with the fact that I still have a lot of room to grow .

About stories - I 've been thinking over your review . Honestly, the first time I hear this . Usually I say , "Why do you have so little sun on the works ? Why do you write something like this : http://www.daniil-belov.com/#! Kolom...na-maslo/c1p41? ». Usually I reply that "the choice of subjects primarily reflecting myself and what I want to express them , I do not for sale took away ."
   
Summing up, I want to say thank you very much for your comment , I'm interested in feedback , your opinion , and I have something to think about it !

[NATA NOVA]

Daniil_Belov, the first mistake, many slov.V can express the same thing, but very briefly?

Second-on whom you orientiruetesl in and declined?

(Why all this? What is the ultimate purpose? (Product) and why you believe that the proper way to go?

there are examples of?
please give.

[Peter]

Daniil_Belov, you start with May 2013 , there is whether the growth of Internet sales for the time and whether they pay off various paid internet services specialized sites and whether there is a positive experience on the promotion of non-core , not directly related to painting. Do you assess the traffic to the site before you begin to operate there ? And in general, what your search criteria a site you want ( network) , as it can be formulated .

[Daniil_Belov]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Daniil_Belov, the first mistake , many slov.V can express the same thing, but very briefly ?
Second - on whom you orientiruetesl in and declined ?
( Why all this? what is the ultimate purpose ? (product ) and why you believe that the proper way to go ?
there are examples of ? please give .

Nata - and I know how I can make a name for himself with the help of the Internet , it remains to get a steady stream of sales under it .

Excuse me, but I will not go into the open to disclose their capital yet unrealized ideas , because it is not ready to create a rival . With those buyers who are ready and who are interested in buying a picture based on the fact that the pictures will be well-known name , I am pleased to talk in person or in personal messages .

Сообщение от Peter

Daniil_Belov, you start with May 2013 , there is whether the growth of Internet sales for the time and whether they pay off various paid internet services specialized sites and whether there is a positive experience on the promotion of non-core not directly associated with painting . Do you assess the traffic to the site before you begin to operate there ? And in general, what your search criteria a site you want ( network) , as it can be formulated .

Previously, sales were single ( exhibitions, familiar ) , so there is no point in talking about it. I learned how to sell them over the Internet? Not yet, I need to learn to go to a private chat with collectors (or rather those who are willing to invest in paintings seriously enough ) . Of particular interest was , but I'm concerned about is the stability of the process. If I can go to them , then I think that it is now able to show why I wonder now invested . If I know that I can safely work as an artist , knowing that I can get a stable enough money for it, who will pay for operating costs - and then I can not give it all somewhere in a third of his time and turn serious and seriously work to connect other humans.

About the site depends on how much time you will need to take action on the site. For some it is known that there is a huge audience and that a considerable part of it is interesting painting. There sooner the problem is not whether to use it and how to be able to use it ( not how to get 10 hits picture, and 100, 000) . For some unclear advance is trying. For some immediately clear : sloppy , barely working , little mention your website on the Internet, few references to them.

Criteria:

1) The size of the audience
2 ) The level of participants' works ( on the one hand , I personally interesting to communicate with those whose work cause I have admiration , on the other - to be where there is no one with such images , like me, I'm also wondering )
3) Active audience, its propensity to interact with me
4) The attractiveness of the audience in terms of potential sales , income or occupation ( important to me a few of the options ) .
5) Use for promotion in search engines

About non-core - is truly non-core sites such as sites of newspapers or something I have not yet used . Social networks - yes. About paid - I did not actually use any paid services now . Some do not pay off , some payback . Those that are small in value - just ready to spend some and try it, because the use may be palpable with little risk . About large - that way "just pour money " seems to me too risky .

[NATA NOVA]

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left to get a steady stream of sales under it .

Сообщение от Daniil_Belov; 2937651"

I learned to sell them over the Internet? Yet

Сообщение от Daniil_Belov; 2937651"

no small part interesting painting .

it is necessary that was interesting not the painting itself and the interest (ready) to buy it .

try . "Do not try , do not know ! "

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Сообщение от Daniil_Belov

Nata - and I know how I can make a name for himself with the help of the internet

so please hurry!

[Daniil_Belov]

Thank you!


I try to cut out all the time, that is.
So much so that even the New Year met working up to three hours a night.

[Peter]

Daniil_Belov, thanks! Now, many artists ( and on this site too) seeking disclosure of the modern Internet capabilities to promote the artist. Each goes his own way . Without asking your know-how , I would like to know what not to do from personal experience , for sure some way proved to be false and ineffective.

[NATA NOVA]

Spontaneously organized version of the theme (a quarter of a million hits it seems today ) " How to unleash the artist "
Peter, everything comes down to a question of ambition and places ( real and imaginary ) of the artist in the art of life (art world).
The main thing is to determine the purpose .
It seems such a law : the more you have in-HETE , the less you have in real life.
In - and no need to go down through the Real ( IMHO, - Although there are exceptions . )

[Daniil_Belov]

Peter, thought about the answer to your question ... Some of these things to say , "Oh, why did I do it? " - Yet was not. The mistakes that I already visible, cost no more evening work and almost nothing in terms of money , since I use them very carefully . Maybe later will come the realization that on some sites it's better not to waste time , maybe something else , not even connected to the Internet and all. For example, understand that you said something wrong , what will regret . Of course , over time, you know how you can do everything faster and more efficient , but the experience just give errors, so for them I have no regrets . That's what occurred to me (that's all I try to remind myself and ) :

1) It is important to understand that there are two objectives : the promotion to generate the ( increase in the cost of works) and promotion to sell work. In my case, the work can never be quite cheap because of the amount of labor that goes on them , so do the second without the first weak version . Someone ( at a cost of less than $ 500 for the work , probably) can only do the latter. Someone might have better luck to encounter such a person , who will be able to sell them for him at such a price that they will be quite enough to live on , and then what do online and promotions ?

2) Do not try to do everything at once is ideal - it's expensive, long and inefficient. Errors will be all the same. Unkind criticism not only when to do nothing , but then still be .

3) Do not make a site if it is not clear why. Do not make expensive site if it is not clear why. Do not make a site if it is not clear where visitors will be taken there . You can start to search websites that allow you to make your template online portfolio on a separate domain , and try them.

4) Do not invest a lot of money if it is not clear why. Temptation is always great, but not worth it. You first need to understand what to invest or be prepared to lose everything attached .

5) Do not do anything if it is not clear why , and it will require a lot of effort ( and especially do not do , unless it is the task of building name).

6) Do not spray : do 10 different things , if you do not have time to do all ten. I sprayed because they do not always know what's best work , so I try to , but to me is a major task , the decision most of the steps that I have worked through this , to be sure of them. But still, it might be better if I did everything exactly by turns , in hindsight do not understand this . I always try to ask ourselves : how to do what is now the most effective , based on the available resources. Often , of course, give up and do what I want and easier . This is wrong.

7) Do not do anything that requires constant effort , if you can not make them more times

8) Understand that something big solo raise unrealistic , I guess. In any case, you will need a job and other people's advice . Buy this job for the money that it paid for itself very difficult. Find people (or at least one person) , with skills that do not have - a key point for success. Otherwise, perhaps only one option - to concentrate on one thing and very narrow . Say, become very famous in one social network where there is a chance to get sales or orders. The lower prices - especially , perhaps, my guess is all the more relevant . Well, or do something so stunning that your work themselves dragged people < ! - ~ 1 ~ -> .

9) All time to think how you can do quickly what you're doing .

It's more considerations about using the Internet than a claim to the truth , but it is something that I think is important .