Local /international artist

[Магнолия]

Cyril Syzransky, you missed the past his attention to mathematical "say", meaning the assumption of a situation.


In the arguments of "general" go to the person inappropriate.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Magnolia

[B]You missed the past his attention to mathematical " say ", meaning the assumption of a situation .

Yes, write at least two times this " say ", will still be funny - "Slav".
This is the Czech ? or polka ? or Croatian ? <! - ~ 1 ~ ->

Huto - hutoryaaaanka , devchonochka Darkie ... ( c) < ! - ~ 7 ~ ->

[mikhael]

And what, this, a special "genetic trait" in the work of Shishkin?? One of the many members of the German, the Dresden school of academic painting!

Well, just the fact that he wrote kinds of Russian nature, and not the kinds of Saxony or Bavaria. A purely in terms of painting it, in my opinion, does not particularly stand out. Indeed, Shishkin is a good example of such a "local authority". In Russia it is grown as a painter of Russian nature. The perception of his art does not require a lot of preparation. Its reproduction in school textbooks. In the West, it is probably almost do not know, though, because they have enough of their "Shishkin" writing native species similar to painting landscapes.

I think that's still the question is how to deliver ... Always a "local" artist due to the fact that the level of his paintings in terms of talent, originality /originality etc. not "hold out" to the international recognition? .. Here, for example, Petrov-Vodkin. The artist, whose painting is unique and surprising. But abroad it, I think, know little about. Or, let's say, the level of talent in his case far exceeds the level of recognition abroad. Why? .. Perhaps there really is some kind of special Russian "genetics" (aesthetics), to catch that, not being Russian, it is difficult, and it may prevent the perception of his paintings ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от mikhael; 2630851 "

Here, for example , Petrov -Vodkin . The artist, whose painting is unique and surprising . But abroad it , I think , know little about .

Know .
5 paintings Petrov- Vodkin " stuck" after exhibitions in Sweden, France , the United States and only in 1050 the widow failed to return them to their homeland.
"Bathing of the Red Horse " just know . Well , let's say - know in Sweden, where this picture was from 1913 to 1950th .
By the way, the Tretyakov 's widow refused priobrett this picture and she , the picture came back only in 1961 has the gift of Casimir Konstantinovny Bacevich that "Bathing " purchased from the widow of the author in 1953 .

[Fed]

Сообщение от mikhael

Petrov-Vodkin-level talent in his case far exceeds the level of recognition abroad.

To know who puts millions for his small pictures-minor "their" or overseas, then you might think about the level of recognition abroad.

[Магнолия]

Сообщение от Fed; 2631011"

I wish I knew who puts millions for his small minor-picture "their" or overseas, then you might think about the level of recognition abroad.

Indeed, the information of the purchaser could make major adjustments in the ranking of paintings (and other works) within the "local-global".

Сообщение от mikhael; 2630851"

In the West, it is probably almost do not know, though, because they have enough of their "Shishkin" writing native species similar to painting landscapes. ............ Here, for example, Petrov-Vodkin. The artist, whose painting is unique and surprising. But abroad it, I think, know little about. Or, let's say, the level of talent in his case far exceeds the level of recognition abroad. Why? .. Perhaps there really is some kind of special Russian "genetics" (aesthetics), to catch that, not being Russian, it's hard ...

It seems to me that this is the clearest example of comparing artists 'photo' and artists 'philosophers' (I'm trying to say about it in his essay "La Boheme", posted on the blog). Have a chance to be global in both categories, but for different reasons. The former can strike any earthling imaging prowess of the form, the second - a metaphor for the expression of thought. However, the perception of genetically native, called locality, stronger, and that is reflected in the auction price.

[mikhael]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

By the way, Tretyakov refused to purchase from the widow of the picture

Apparently, even here it is not immediately appreciated ... Well, as distinguished artists often ahead of their time . But what is interesting , for example, in Wikipedia article "Bathing the Red Horse " is only in Russian and Polish. In Swedish no. A general article about Petrov- Vodkin is in 16 languages ​​(other than Russian ), as for example about the same Shishkin , surprisingly - by 38. Mostly, though , it's just blank papers, but none the less. About Kandinsky - in 55 languages ​​. That is, in foreign languages ​​are relatively few articles about Petrov- Vodkin , that something , say yes ...

Сообщение от Fed

I wish I knew who puts millions for his small minor - picture "their" or overseas , then you might think about the level of recognition abroad .

Really? .. And what a picture, you know? There are reproductions on the Internet?

[mikhael]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

With the exception of the avant-garde of the first quarter (well , maybe one-third) of the twentieth century , the whole " Russian painting " - Western replay .

Somehow it sounds too pejorative - repeat <! - ~ 12 ~ -> I would say , do not repeat , and the part of European paintings , as far as the original - is another question , but quite decent .

[Магнолия]

Сообщение от mikhael; 2631471"

A general article about Petrov-Vodkin is in 16 languages ​​(other than Russian), as for example about the same Shishkin, surprisingly - by 38. Mostly, though, it's just blank papers, but none the less. About Kandinsky - in 55 languages.

That's how the transition occurs spontaneously on the language of numbers. And this is apart of estimate and sales prices.

Perhaps we need to launch the idea expressed by the phrase:

Сообщение от Magnolia; 2630421"

Always believed that aesthetics is derived from genetics people. And it turns out that it is possible to measure the local-global currency.

These are the basic understanding of the language: words, images and numbers.
The collection of words and images connects the two types of semantic and aesthetic perception. (Eg, poster) include both thought and artistic sense, they say, "convinces semantics, aesthetics deceive."

     Among laid special rational sense. Numbers, like words, initially associated with an entity. The Pythagoreans believed that number expresses the nature of things, and it can not be wrong. And so everybody can know and understand a number. Theologian Nicholas of Cusa wrote: "Where the language of mathematics fails, the human spirit nothing will not be able to understand and learn." The strength of the language of numbers in objectivity. There is even a concept - "the spirit of the bill." The market made a number of the principle of life.
It should be particularly noted by the number of trust. "Counting" eliminate dissent.
This is the "counting" takes place at the auctions. Aesthetic (or otherwise) is replaced by the estimate price. The magic number (the price) is so strong that even the vitality of the absurd.
To-price auction number showed the most precise characteristics of paintings in the key local or global demand (and also to compare the one and the other as a whole) should be based on results show "genetics" purchasers.

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Magnolia ; 2632161 "

need to show the results of the auction , " genetics " buyers

So much that it is necessary, at the same time : name, place of work , a certificate from the tax , bank accounts , owning real estate assets . Yes that - moral character : bad habits , children born out of wedlock ...
Magnolia everything in moderation , we are already doing you a comment on this topic - no need with their " scientific " researches crawl on all topics , please.
And then turn on the magic banned, though there also are the numbers - for 1 day or two, at 365 ...