At a round table of Antiquaries

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Сообщение от kr555

and in the case of fake Paypal definitely wash its hands if the deal was not on eBay

We now expect the emergence of analog PayPal to sell hammers and associate it with this payment instrument.
Parties to the transaction is doing here consider - are talking about a hammer.

[kr555]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

We now expect the emergence of analog PayPal to sell hammers and associate it with this payment instrument. Parties to the transaction is doing here consider - are talking about a hammer .

In this case, the responsibility for this must take the hammer . And now he can do, there is a will , is with any payment system - but, apparently, no desire.
And not the fact that it slows sales is painting. Somehow, it does not slow down in sales and coin dealers PDI , where counterfeiting is much greater. That's something they deal with the natural fear of fraud, do not rely on payment systems.

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Сообщение от kr555; 2526601"

It is now and can do, there is a will , is with any payment system - but, apparently, there is no desire .

No, they have come up with something to do and such a system is running.

Сообщение от kr555; 2526601"

It is not the fact that it inhibits the sale is painting. Somehow, it does not slow down in sales and coin dealers PDI , where counterfeiting is much greater. That's something they deal with the natural fear of fraud, do not rely on payment systems.

Coins and limited edition items DPI - hundreds of thousands of one issue , millions of readers of porcelain , such as figurines , there is nothing to compare , find a description and so on, so check the painting will not succeed , agree.

[sergejnowo]

kr555, once again sorry for the expression, - Once again you write complete nonsense.
How can a bank transfer to insure against fraud?

Throw develop this theme, it does not lie to you, sorry.

[kr555]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2526631"

No, they have come up with something to do and such a system will be launched .

Yeah, well, let's see , maybe get something good.

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran ; 2526631"

coins and limited edition items DPI - hundreds of thousands of one issue , millions of readers of porcelain , such as figurines , there is nothing to compare , find a description and so on, so check the painting correspondence fails, admit .

Yes, but then there is not a fake handicrafts , popular coins simply commercially manufactured. And yet , in any case, no one is immune from what people will put the original rare coin, and will send a good fake. ( From a painting is much more difficult to do the trick .)
Actually, in my opinion, the problem is the same in another place somewhere buried. But I do not know which one.

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sergejnowo, you even read what I write.
Anything from a fake insurance may not, other than the seller's reputation, and that is very concerning.
But in the court of appeal for fraud with a bank card payments will be much easier.

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Сообщение от kr555; 2526711"

And in fact , in any case, no one is safe from the fact that people will put the original rare coin, and will send a good fake. ( From a painting is much more difficult to do the trick ).

Fraudster a feint can crank time : the emergence of masterpieces and raretetov even a dozen pieces on the Hammers cause an instant reaction among numismatists.

[kr555]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Rascal a feint can crank time : the emergence of masterpieces and raretetov a dozen lots or even at times a hammer will cause an instant reaction among numismatists.
Yes, and fraud in the environment are monitored very well .

Well, yes, there is rather a problem of the medium. Hammers on Wednesday numismatists somehow formed and able to support herself . But such is not the painting , it is also necessary to form , and not the fact that out, simply because of the smaller mass.

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от kr555; 2526711"

But in the court of appeal for fraud with a bank card payments will be much easier.

sorry ...... reply to this topic recently .
What the hell payment system ?
Now the bank nobody goes , - online banking, increasingly through mobile.
Payment via PayPal to complete the purchase in 20 seconds, and the next day PayPal withdraws money from a bank account or credit card.
In Germany, do not apply to the court and to counsel.
Be well.

[kr555]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

sorry ...... reply to this topic recently.
What the hell payment system?
Now the bank nobody goes, - online banking, increasingly through mobile.
Payment via PayPal to complete the purchase in 20 seconds, and the next day PayPal withdraws money from a bank account or credit card.
In Germany, do not apply to the court and to counsel.
Be well.

That's all you can essentially say? find fault with words? Oh that does not card payments, account statements, and not the court, and the lawyer. What does it change? Why in this scheme need Paypal? To remove the extra interest from the account of the seller? Profitable to the seller to get all the money into your account without having to pay extra fees mediator. Electronic bank payment is almost the same time, and it's cheaper.
I did not just write about it. Repeatedly faced with German sellers, categorically refuses to accept Paypal and request payment to a bank account (or agree, after much persuasion and promises to repay all Paypal-ovskie commissions). In no other country, this will not be - maybe even in Switzerland, but I'm there for 100 years did not buy anything and just do not remember.

[artcol]

I once struck up a branch about a hammer.


Actually, the reason that there are not bought in the painting seems to me that there are trading it full inadequate.
Things have been translated into more than 2 times, some stupid attribution (usually begin with, "the authenticity of", "subscription"), etc.