Help determine Fogg picture

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от macas

I was told that the painting was done in the 17th century.

Maybe so.
And it may be, and Spain.

Other images of the late 17th century or early 18th.


No more than that, I think.


Far from Ribera and Zurbaran, say ...

[macas]

I agree with you.
I do not see the hand of the master in this picture.
But the portrait is what that force


Only one detail.
The previous owner thought that the painting was done by José de Ribera.
Finally I can say is - circle José de Ribera (1591-1652).

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от macas

- Circle Jose de Ribera

Possible.

Saying of noodle that is in terms of B. Strozzi, I'm not too far away, you know.

[U_Z]

Perhaps it is the cut of the picture, rather than individual work.
Open the turnover (nothing wrong with that), is likely to be a continuation of the edge painting.

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As an example, part of the plot "Lamentation", more secular painting without halo.

[U_Z]

As an example, part of the plot "Lamentation", more secular painting without halo.

[macas]

Look, it is an independent work, no extension of painting.
The only question is this, does it make sense to go ahead and contact the expert of the Spanish.
By the way, here's an interesting site: http://www.veafotoaqui.com/JoseDeRibera.html.

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[I-V]

Сообщение от macas; 2343841 "

I agree with you , but the plot reminds me of someone from the 17th century .

macas, if we talk about some associations , then I for one remember the family of Venetian painters of Bassano ( Francesco and Jacopo , Leandro and others all remember in my opinion is not possible ))) , a 16 - early . 17 centuries .

In any case, such a mysterious light pink is very characteristic of some of these

Here , look at some pictures please " naguglennye " (sorry , whose not specify where )))

That is, as version: Bassano circle or a copy of one of them .

Although, of course , your picture reminds very many , so to speak , " the Spanish- Italian " artists of the 17th - 18th centuries