Painting Semyon Shchedrin? Questions of attribution.

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Сообщение от Fox ; 2029671"

I would like to add that the stories of the former maid of honor in the painting depicts a palace in Ropsha . I think similar .

The idea is that the picture must be at least hint at the gazebo ( although it could appear later.) But considering how often rebuilt in Russia (and before the revolution ) and the manor house were broken , look for compliance , focusing on the early image . The 19th century. - A thankless task. Especially because , in general, manor houses of just this type was very high.

Too bad the picture is not even churches , or even a building for clues . In principle, it may be, of course, Ropsha (and then freylinskoe true story ), but may in fact not be, alas. Clear conclusion , I think , is incredibly difficult . If you just do not meet any signed picture of the first half of the 19th century . with a very similar house, shown with a similar point. And even then , it will be necessary to recheck all the more than once ...

A . Ropsha . 1st floor. The 19th century. (Generally similar to , but again, nothing is absolutely not to say )

Two . Ropsha . 1873

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Сообщение от IV

The idea is that the picture must be at least hint at the gazebo (although it could appear later.) But considering how often rebuilt in Russia (and before the revolution) and the manor house were broken, look for compliance, focusing on the early image. The 19th century. - A thankless task. Especially because, in general, manor houses of just this type was very high.

Too bad the picture is not even churches, or even a building for clues. In principle, it may be, of course, Ropsha (and then freylinskoe true story), but may in fact not be, alas. Clear conclusion, I think, is incredibly difficult. If you just do not meet any signed picture of the first half of the 19th century. with a very similar house, shown with a similar point. And even then, it will be necessary to recheck all the more than once ...

A. Ropsha. 1st floor. The 19th century. (Generally similar to, but again, nothing is absolutely not to say)

Two. Ropsha. 1873

Of course, I agree with you that it can not be Ropsha. Optionally, you can start a architectural research, raise the archives and look where that Ropsha rebuilt. At this point, without reference to the serious architectural sources, I know about the construction of the palace in Ropsha that "through the colonnade two tiers of windows can be easily seen window Blue Room: on the second floor - is a high rectangular windows on the third floor - in the center of the semicircular window, and on the sides - two round. From Blue Room door leads to the balcony on the second floor, overlooking the Lower Park. building is crowned lightweight wooden gazebo, made in 1795 by Peter the carpenter Prokofiev "
For some reason I thought that the author of the picture could simply depict the gazebo, because the palace is not written very carefully, and he wrote to his bottom. On the other hand, the picture could have been written before 1795 (this assumption, if we check vrsiyu "Ropsha").

[I-V]

Lisa, one thing is clear: artistic quality of the picture and her story - a sufficient reason to conduct a professional examination.
What was said and respected Toinen.

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Сообщение от IV

Lisa, one thing is clear: artistic quality of the picture and her story - a sufficient reason to conduct a professional examination.
What was said and respected Toinen.

 
Very grateful to all have expressed their opinion.

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Сообщение от Fox

picture she received as a gift from the royal family

Where is the picture of the part number CP received?

[Toinen]

Сообщение от Shem

Where the picture was the inventory number of the CP?

Wise to ask where the Plywood got this part number as
This plywood is an alien element and late adscititious.



Information: manual - a small house near the road full of traffic inspectors.

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Сообщение от Shem

Where the picture was the inventory number of the CP?

About the gift - a family history that may or may not be true.

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Сообщение от Toinen

is probably best to ask where the Plywood got this part number as
This plywood is an alien element and late adscititious.



Information: manual - a small house near the road full of traffic inspectors.

A "foreign and late adscititious" is like?
Can your version?

[Toinen]

Сообщение от "Fox; 2030481 '

Can your version?

You can!

Initially it was a canvas on a stretcher, but then (for unknown reasons), the picture was cut from the stretcher and later placed on makeshift plywood.
Perhaps goaded by painting the existing frame.

[Culmis]

Semion Shchedrin died in 1804, KP and following this abbreviation room - a record in the proceeds of the museum exhibit.

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Сообщение от Culmis

Semyon Shchedrin died in 1804, KP and following this abbreviation room - a record in the proceeds of the museum exhibit.

So, as you can see how long this stock number?
I understood correctly, that the picture could be in a museum or a veneer of the former exhibit?