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Старый 15.02.2012, 22:57 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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Most of all, surprise is not so much tasteless Kichevo bad picture of the artist, or a stupid decision Kholui uncivilized government, but man-hating obscurantism by Toinen and his ilk.
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Старый 16.02.2012, 01:02 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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in any Muslim country for a similar trick to this "artist" cut the head off to the right, and would have done!
It's too easy to say, but if you have the right to appeal to Muslim standards? First have to be circumcised, to faith, to pray 5 times a day, observing other rituals. Then gather like-minded people, turn into an absolute majority, to change the constitution, writing in her supremacy of Islam and Sharia, and then "cut Baska," throw stones, burned alive, and various other amenities of the suit. Moreover, among the Muslims is a moderate majority, which would not have participated and shared your views. That is, Do you share the views of extremist minority, which is a cancerous tumor in the ICC itself. countries.
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I can not remain indifferent when treading the faith of my ancestors! This obscurantism?
Faith of your forefathers primarily involves the absence of violence, or you do not know if it is not clear what exactly you are trying to protect, or you have some kind of personal interpretation, which was circulated in medieval Europe, and which, it is precisely in these days is not can be nothing but obscurantism.
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Старый 16.02.2012, 01:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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iside, to share one's opinion on a particular issue, it is not necessary to be circumcised.

I hate it when mock the memory of their ancestors.
If this obscurantism - I obscurantist!



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I hate it when mock the memory of their ancestors.
And yet I can not understand how the mouse from the American cartoon placed in the work of secular Western-European artist can be called a "mockery of the memory of their ancestors?"
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Старый 16.02.2012, 01:34 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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And yet I can not understand how the mouse from the American cartoon placed in the work of secular Western-European artist can be called a "mockery of the memory of their ancestors?"
you need to have a (very) special and peculiar turn of mind ...
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Старый 16.02.2012, 01:35 Язык оригинала: Русский       #6
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Cyril Syzran, I, with your permission, will return to Em ...
discussion of underpainting.



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Старый 16.02.2012, 01:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #7
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iside, to share one's opinion on a particular issue , it is not necessary to be circumcised .
You can not share this opinion because I do not know at all what you write. What you wrote is a populist media stamp, which, I repeat, belongs to an extremist minority, which persecuted and despised in the ICC itself . countries.
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I hate it when mock the memory of their ancestors
We are sure that you know and understand the meaning of the work ?
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It's too easy to say, but if you have the right to appeal to Muslim standards? First have to be circumcised, to faith, to pray 5 times a day, observing other rituals. Then gather like-minded people, turn into an absolute majority, to change the constitution, writing in her supremacy of Islam and Sharia, and then "cut Baska," throw stones, burned alive, and various other amenities of the suit. Moreover, among the Muslims is a moderate majority, which would not have participated and shared your views. That is, Do you share the views of extremist minority, which is a cancerous tumor in the ICC itself. countries.

Faith of your forefathers primarily involves the absence of violence, or you do not know if it is not clear what exactly you are trying to protect, or you have some kind of personal interpretation, which was circulated in medieval Europe, and which, it is precisely in these days is not can be nothing but obscurantism.
Religious wars. Most of the people killed in the fight for the right religion. Masulmane against the Crusaders against Orthodox Orthodox, Orthodox against levoslavnyh, levoslavnye against levoslavnyh, etc. What is called the faith of ancestors? What god do you worship? Religion is the general hypocrisy and politics of divide and rule. Wild Things! The picture simply an excuse to talk about the religion of their forefathers? The picture is simply a cheap kompelyatsiya and all, but how much noise.

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Are you talking about?
I have not heard about it.
And what's wrong in the shed?
Makovsky saw a picture of carnival booth?
Great story, great action, great picture.

Do you personally are any holidays?

By the way, why are you so excited for?

Bone in the throat of Christianity is to you?

You - offspring of the devil, or what?

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Medieval Europe was not so "bad", as we drew in uchebnegah.

At least that is now to build churches, and no one knows how I could not.
Not to mention the spiritual insight of the era.

So it is better not to have traversed down to other ages, which you probably have no idea.

In the Middle Ages for this would be patted on the head does not - and rightly have done.
What was wrong? Of course everything was fine. Only here the plague, the Hundred Years War to the glory of religion. The destruction of many centuries of Roman culture, the achievements of which you can not even guess. And so it was very good, temples built for centuries, and the second one. One really bombed and God did not protect his house. How so?
What do you mean by religion of their ancestors?

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Come on .
You see , our civilization - the Judeo- Christian, that is to say European.
The phenomenon of European civilization (in the formulation Averintsev SS ):
1) Judeo -Christian spirituality.
2) The Roman law
3) Greek philosophy and aesthetics.

In the last half century , there are two dangerous call this civilization :
1) destructive atheists
2) immigration from North Africa, the masses , it is not related to the mentality of that civilization.

These two destructive moment in the present and represent the greatest threat to that civilization.

We , Christians , people soft, tolerant and tagdalie .
But I think you 'll see that the gentleness and tolerance does not mean consent to our civilization wiped out all sorts of homosexuals , atheists , immigrants from North Africa, sitting on the dole .

We even say the word.
Maybe not tomorrow.
But let's say , for instance.

We have a lot at every kilometer . Here - and throughout the world.
(c )
Heil ! Sieg Heil !

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Well, do not worry , Comrade . Eugene.
I am a strong Russian folk speak a few words from three years .
My children , half French , and more specifically , just a Frenchwoman and a half of Russian blood , strong Russian folk speak a few words , too, with three years .
Russian culture is not that a bit . Cabernet - you sour . Where there is heat, there is tuberculosis, and even in Moscow, and the wine is better , too.




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You can believe (or disbelieve) in whatever you want, but do not sneer at someone else's faith.
But this interpretation of the Sermon is not mockery?
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I was able to show this picture and really komenty believer churched person to believe that I am with great respect.
This is my friend's mom, she came to faith about 40 years ago (now she is under 80), when it was not comme il faut. Not that the current lzheveruyuschie, former persecutors of priests, beating now with them (the priests present raspaltsovannymi) petition in the churches.

It so happened that a friend of mine worked for 15 years at the store Sofrino (at Krapotkinskoy). Of course it is much to see inside. Starting from very minor things (such as money for lunch staff is always taken from the boxes of donations, by order of administration of course) to downright disgusting. When she asked her mother, supposedly because they say so ... how can you believe in God? She always answered that priests are human beings with the same weaknesses (money, sex, power, etc.) as we do. For God is not relevant.

Returning to the picture .... she briefly sorry for this artist and she hopes that in time he comes to God and will gain acceptance with myself (I'm in my own words, but I think the meaning is clear)
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In any Muslim country for a similar trick to this "artist" cut the head off to the right, and would have done!
She said it is EVIL.

From me: hi all spasibki has placed under it.

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I can not remain indifferent when treading the faith of my ancestors!
This obscurantism?
I am an atheist. But despite this, the TRUE believers, or rather to their faith, treat with respect. And perhaps even with some degree of envy. Because man is weak by nature, and with faith to live and die easily.
But such people in my environment unit. That's like a married couple (40 years) and a son 20 years old. All clear, every weekend in the church office, etc. Surprised and bewildered eyes, I do not know what churches today. holiday and so forth. (Up to a frantic search for what is "right" of Cahors wine for the priest). But! Attitude to his own parents (objectively say not the easiest people) as cattle. I'm not going to respect their lzheveru!
 And yet, we have always f **** all over, from one extreme to another .... had destroyed churches and priests were hanged, and now the same people, with bloodshot eyes, throat ferociously for each allegedly for the faith of their ancestors .
This is obscurantism, daze, back in the past (medieval times), regression ... call it what you want. And it is harmful to my country




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