Criteria for assessing the quality of art works

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Сообщение от iosif

Is there are situations where the structuring of knowledge is produced uselessness?

And I did some of these "structuring" did not make - I do not, but I heard so-and-forget.

I do not really understand - and why it is needed, for example, practicing the dealer?

I uglyazhu masterpiece, do not miss it.
 
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[artcol]

Сообщение от iosif

artcol, with interest to hear your opinion on both the issues raised.

According to the first opinion I have no (if we talk about quality as the quality of products). Quality works of art - it is not clear what they mean. Some of its in rem quality? Or the quality of the vision in the real ? Or credibility of its implementation? In short - is unclear.

A masterpiece is defined as: this is the highest result of creative human thought (context specified), and the corresponding level of implementation in the real . That is, take and compare the first thought ( there has its own criteria ) , and then - its implementation ( also his) . That's all > The idea is primary, but has an impact on the subject of its embodiment , it is the same and is responsible for the assessment of this idea.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от iosif; 1935091"

why two standard art -educated estimate of the same opposite the famous artist ?

Because every work - a reflection of the human world .
And not just with his world gotovv perceive a different world.

And it's not just painting.
For example, I do not like Tchaikovsky , but someone else likes.

There are also purely formal elements that describe a long time .
For example, virtually all the critics do not recognize the work of Ilya Glazunov.

Artists appreciate creativity Krymov higher than the collectors.

Collectors appreciate creativity Konstantin Makovsky higher than art .

Well tagdalie .

[artcol]

Сообщение от iosif

My question is: why the two standard-educated art historian evaluate the same opposite the famous artist?

Perhaps they have different understandings and assess his plans.

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Сообщение от Guriev , Igor

Because all creativity - a reflection of the human world .
And not just with his world gotovv perceive a different world.

And it's not just painting.
For example, I do not like Tchaikovsky , but someone else likes.

There are also purely formal aspects , which have long been described .

That's it.
And yet it is the context - a masterpiece of the world may be or may be a masterpiece in the context of the work of one author. It is also necessary to specify , but usually do not do >

[Peter]

Сообщение от iosif

[B]My question is: why the two standard -educated art historian evaluate the same opposite the famous artist ?

Because the art .. people too. > On your principles , beliefs, vkusami.kotorye versed in something better, something net.Ot education, the ideals depends on idealogii (why not), from the outlook in the a broad sense. In general, the full story or just subektivizm.Obektivna this time. -stable recognition of a sufficiently large number of people including professionally trained , multiplied by the years , pokoleniya.Ne recognized masterpiece is a masterpiece after its recognition takovym.Do it simply " the applicant " at this high rank .

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Сообщение от artcol

The thought is primary, but has an impact on the subject of its embodiment, it is the same and is responsible for the assessment of this idea.

And I would term "thought" was not used.
Once this is too general for art, fine art qn, as we speak.

Here and "plan", and "idea" and "concept" ...

[artcol]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

I would term "thought" was not used.
Once this is too general for art, for art, paintings for what we think and speak right now.

Here and "plan", and "idea" and "concept "...

Yes, but I just wanted to emphasize the immateriality of the beginning.

[iosif]

Guriev, Igor, so it's informative.
Thank you.
While still remained the question of the opposite opinion of two professionals.
Like-dislike, everything is clear.
But the assessment of professionals on the subject of monetary value, in theory, should not differ fundamentally.

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Сообщение от Peter

is not recognized as a masterpiece is a masterpiece after its recognition as such.

A masterpiece can exist without recognition.

In the artist's studio, for example.

[artcol]

Сообщение от iosif

theoretically should not differ fundamentally.

Why not?