Ideal forum: utopia or ...

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от Admin

A serious study.

Let's just say: Christmas tale with a hint of the theme for collaborative research.

Сообщение от Tana

and in my opinion, the author may himself remove his "masterpieces" from the "squabbling" At least I have his removed without problems.: Shy:

All brilliant - easy! If that wrote Tana, and in fact is true, then the troubled section of stay alone masochists: rolleyes:

Сообщение от Zenia

I think it is not necessary to divide reality into the virtual and real. Forum is part of real life, though we communicate here virtually. But men are alive ....
What is the "squabbling" only reflects the fact that this part of reality!

Сообщение от Zenia

.... Well, what to do with innate anarchism?

Zenia, for the first time I see anarchists who advocate for the life of hyper-realism. : D: confused:
And what if the revolt against the vulgar reality and Porobovati right before it corrected through the adoption of a more worthy virtuality? How's astrologers say - per aspera ad astra?

Сообщение от Admin

section "Controversy" will not be perceived as unworthy, which fall into shame. Thus, lost all of its educational value.

I understand your point. But there is a subtle and damn important.

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When promotion forum because you are interested in not only quantitative, but also - and above all - quality of the participants?
But serious people related to art, often peculiar to the domestic aristocracy and aesthetically look at things.
Forum is not an exception to this series of things.
And if after the first acquaintance with him will be found a false note - the second singles may no longer be.
At best, people can register to view the information in the database, but to participate in the forum, the aura that does not seem perfect, he would abstain.

And the criteria for making a final decision is likely to be "landmark trifles" expressing a close view of the degree of elitism forum or the will of managers to such.
Noble people at all times prefer to be beheaded than subjected to public flogging - punishment for the plebs. If there is a network share to "squabble" - then it's potentially a place for the plebs.
You decide which contingents of priority.

The presence of "an unpleasant and unattractive side of forum life" smart people, and so figure it out. Is it worth it to accentuate the sake of a hypothetical educational influence on the slow-witted?
Moreover, the rules of conduct and consequences of their violations of the newcomers are informed at registration.

I assure you that with a strong interest of the participants of the positive atmosphere of the forum and mechanisms of self-regulation will effectively deal with small excesses than a demonstration of administrative paternalism is justified only when clear predominance of random people on the forum.

I have exhausted their arguments and if they will show you lightweight, then at that and stopped.

[Admin]

Dear Art-lover, the path we have already passed, and the experience of recent days shows that the appearance of the notorious section of "squabbling" is precisely the deterrent effect, which lacked before. The atmosphere at the forum in recent days clearly improved. A potential new members, I assure you, they will understand perfectly what's what. Much worse would be if both first and offensive messages will appear and break out the scandals that are unclear as to extinguish. One banami this problem is not solved. We have already passed it, why repeat their own mistakes? Therefore propose to accept the existence of "hell", as if against her nor protested Your inner aestheticism.

[Ninni]

At the forum people are trying to still show our best side, so that there is more than cute ... lions and lionesses - kittens are sometimes snarls .....

[Zenia]

Сообщение от Art-lover

Zenia, for the first time I see anarchists who advocate for the life of hyper-realism. : D: confused:

Well I'm actually just a supporter of quality, but it could be anywhere, but can not be ....

And as for the standards so, they are set, they are not artificially created, it's not the price of Hirst's .....

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от Zenia

Well I'm actually just a supporter of quality, but it could be anywhere, but can not be ....

And as for the standards so, they are set, they do not artificially create ...

Thank you, Zenia. Your remark helped me to understand why the general idea was unperceived, and all the attention has shifted to "the burning" particularity.

You, like most of the participants perceive the forum "inside", as the current granted - as a club with a constant internal layout, which is an interesting parties, which in general everyone is happy. Well, sometimes someone collides head-on, somebody back is white, someone blew his nose during a concert somewhere in the corner of kittens potsapalis ... In general, small roughness, without which life is fresh, as well - all emerging as it folds and can not be otherwise.

I offered a moment "out of himself," and look at what is happening both inside and outside - with a bird's-eye view. And then to complicate the task: prenestis back in time in the future and again "bisected".
Why are these dizzying stunts?
Then, something that for a moment in the architect and director, you can find many wonderful things. Among them, and that that quality and standards, and the future of network community (and the real, too), depend not only on Big Brother, but also on how the participants view of the situation.

All this seems to sound right now as abstract nonsense.
But in the next post will try to bring the specifics.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Art-lover

the future of networking community (and the real, too), depend not only on the Big Brother

All, of course, are equal. But some equal.

Сообщение от Art-lover

All this seems to sound right now as abstract nonsense.
But in the next post will try to bring the specifics.

Be a "simpler", and you reach for people.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Art-lover

I also suggested for a moment "out of himself," and look at what is happening both inside and outside - with a bird's-eye view. And then to complicate the task: prenestis back in time in the future and again "bisected".

Drug control is not afraid of you ...

[Art-lover]

Сообщение от dedulya37

... and you reach for people.

And where they then put it? .. : confused:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

drug control is not afraid of you ...

To walk as a walk! : D: D: D
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Сообщение от Marcus Aurelius

"Our life is what we think about it"

: cool:

Promised specifics.
At the time of writing sooobscheniya statistics forum looks like this:
Topics: 1,271, Posts: 15.479, Members: 563, Active Members: 217.

For a resource, seeking to cover almost all facets of art, it is very small. In normal promotion of the active participants must be at least an order of magnitude greater.

But even now, if you view messages in recent months, it appears that the forum users sometimes feel uncomfortable on several occasions.
What is waiting for a forum, if the number of its adherents multiplied?

Do not we then be faced with a situation where as, so: (?.

Let us look at already emerging symptoms and sprognoziruem their development: who is warned is forearmed.

1. Gorgeous Offtopic .

There are German and Slavic styles of behavior on the forum.

"Fritz" respect the order and make the message so that their contents somehow correlated with the thematic hierarchy (sections, themes).

Instead, Slavic nature requires that the issues of color in Vrubel not discussed the topic "Vrubel, and in the theme" Funeral designs tribe Mumba-Yumba. There also will be affected by the medium-term benefits of investing in Hirst and prodiskutirovany dignity of Chinese cuisine.
And so cleverly and thoroughly, that the continuation of the conversation about ritual ornaments on this background will look like blatant breach of etiquette.

(to be continued)

[Admin]

Сообщение от Art-lover

For a resource, seeking to cover almost all facets of art, it is very small. In normal promotion of the active participants must be at least an order of magnitude greater.

Dear Art-lover, I do not know your qualifications in the field of SEO (search engine optimization), but if you are an expert in this, we must understand that for a resource, there are only 9 months, this is a very great deal. And promotion held (and continues to be) not just a "normal", and the maximum - as much as possible and permissible (the specialists will understand me).

As for the rest of what you write here ... yes, with something we can agree with something to argue, but the meaning of such discussions maloponyaten. Forum - a place to socialize. People communicate - in this main sense, and its task forum thus performs. Useful information, we try to classify and structure in the "Guide to the Forum. And how discussions evolve and where can wag the channel of a particular conversation - only God knows. A good example of that - a discussion of the theme VM Mariupol, "counselors" in 1950, where literally from the second message in the conversation left side of the claimed subject matter and has been for thirteen pages is discussing the advantages and disadvantages of life in Soviet and contemporary Russia and abroad. And, I must say that there is nothing wrong with that, I do not see. People are interesting - and this is great! Forum for this and there - for the soul to communicate with the same interests, to help each other with information and useful tips.

So all we have in place. A prediction of development of the current situation, much less certain "symptoms" - a thankless task.

[dedulya37]

Сообщение от Admin

And how discussions evolve and where can wag the channel of a particular conversation - only God knows.

That's good that our discussions have developed, it seems art-Lavery know where to send God.

Сообщение от Admin

So all we have in place. A prediction of development of the current situation, much less certain "symptoms" - a thankless task.

Still interesting to hear the arguments, perhaps in the end we will be grateful to the author.
Do not be afraid of you, Admin, all right, no one encroaches on your resource. It was originally a man (in the broad sense) "locked up" on the creation rather than destruction.
When people discuss the forum, it does not mean that they want to ruin it.
Try not to apply so painful to our messages.
Hello to all management and a Happy Christmas!