Kandinsky Prize 2011 - Страница 2 - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

Vladimir · 02.10.2011, 18:54

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Oh!
These same words could be heard July 19, 1937 at the opening ceremony in the park Hofgarten, in the heart of Munich.

It's hard analogy, but that's about our sixties also talked about the same.
Normal.
So half a step ahead.

uriart · 02.10.2011, 21:42

Vladimir, in the sixties I was more than 16, and I liked them and then these artists.

Especially memorable works of Popkov and D. Kras.

Intuitively liked!

Nothing in this do not understand!

But here?

Sorry!

spigo · 02.10.2011, 22:30

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Complete nonsense!
Degradation!

In other words, the dialectic of modern development, when, instead of eating a juicy steak house, built in car turn to McDonald's, instead of thinking why hurt one or the other body, eats painkillers, but instead to spend the evening in the theater, are staring at the rotten flesh in formalin. And the art? Yes Who is it for? A small handful of eccentrics - the idealists? But they all want to have artists, psevdohudozhniki, curators, etc. Therefore, invented and delusional, sucked from the finger projects and not less crazy ways to implement these in fact low-quality show. And how could it be otherwise? After all, the public needs bread and circuses. Bread it certainly will not give, and show-please, for a brilliant canvas is much more difficult than to become a man-dog, or gouging in public icon. For what it's all created? The chain of causality is clear-all in the end loot. Is it worth all this cretinism call art? The answer in this case is obvious. No, I'm not against any kind of razvlekuh, why not, but it should be called modest. For example, okolohudozhestvennaya action, an object with elements of creativity.

Konstantin · 02.10.2011, 22:56

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For what it's all created? The chain of causality is clear - all in the end loot .

At this , several objections:
1. If it's art (?) Garbage, then where's the money? You seriously think that these artifacts are selling well ? Or that the people rushing all zhiruyut on tickets ?

2. In recent years, from all sides and only heard that all degraded and only purpose of loot . And before that not so? And earlier this when? But I'm not talking about that , everyone who now wants to earn money for what they want? In order to put money into the coffers as the miserly knight ? Or to live a normal life ? Ride on normal machines , to carry on the family resorts, live in separate apartments ( decent if possible), go to the same theater (very cheap by the way) . Or do you think that it's disgusting ? And we must live in barracks and starvation ?

spigo · 02.10.2011, 23:15

Konstantin, I've simplified , but you know this thread is not worse than mine . Informpovod (s) , the public mind , of course it takes years and money, but in the end - hudubozhestvo penetrates the leading auctions, etc. On the second question . We have to live normally, but with his head. Try to earn, to improve the lives of their loved ones. But I'm talking about real , honest artists, honest to themselves, their creativity. They have another life, another mission , and in the material sense, their lives were going badly more often , unfortunately.

Кирилл Сызранский · 02.10.2011, 23:20

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Informpovod (s), the public mind, of course it takes years and money, but in the end-hudubozhestvo penetrates the leading auctions, etc.

Too long and complicated.

You are head and share it, trying to explain about the "ultimately Salvage" .

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But I'm talking about real, honest artists, honest to themselves, their creativity.

Aktualschiki sometimes more honest than traditional easel painters, running through the galleries with the proposals themselves.

spigo · 02.10.2011, 23:28

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you head and share it, trying to explain about the "loot in the end"

Delirious??

Кирилл Сызранский · 02.10.2011, 23:35

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nonsense??

No, probably, a clear mind and a sober memory.

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But the route march for the "loot", painted by you, is easier to refer to the "delirium".

K-Maler · 02.10.2011, 23:58

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You have to live normally, but with his head. Try to earn, to improve the lives of their loved ones. But I'm talking about real , honest artists, honest to themselves, their creativity. They have another life, another mission , and in the material sense, their lives were going badly more often , unfortunately .

Yes, indeed. Normally live ... Normally work , exhibited ...
But not now see that , yes, a lot of money invested in the exhibition industry rather narrow group of artists and Contemporary -direction , no longer possible to see etogot ... What all to attention to , as in socialist realism, just do it? The controversy is legitimate ...

uriart · 03.10.2011, 08:18

Konstantin, if you look at this "creativity" in another , say from the perspective of both an opera singer .
Who once heard a singer with a weak or a bad voice , the second time will not listen to him.
Probably so , and to this mazaninoy .
But once people go look at this nonsense, and yet a second time and stick them there is not a pen.
But when was the exhibition of works by Levitan, in droves , and not one time .
This is talking about ?
Then the question !
Where is art?

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