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[Katerina-m]

By the way, here's the second picture, I dated her 50-ies.

[Dutch]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

For example, I often sign my pictures later.

Come see pictures of those that still have to think twice, sign them or not?

[Сергей Дородный]

Enlighten me - what forge Vyalov - a profitable business?
Imagine - a criminal syndicate supplying podelnitsu false documents and waiting for prey.
And here is a trusting buyer.
Naive lover shocked - Is this the same Vyalov?
And he vtyuhivayut neVyalova as Vyalov.
10 years ago.
Weld on the signature 200 dollars?

At this free story inspired me that painting is quite decent,
really is not much worse than the above 100%paintings Vyalov. Well, a little Sketch.
So Semeiz, girls.
A sunset one as always - yes compare this garbage to this! Yes you are! Earth and sky!

Vyalov it.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от "Sergei burly, 1544441

Vyalov it.

I agree with you completely normal painting .. the more money to work relatively inexpensive http://www.shishkin-gallery.ru/artist_269.html

and the queue for them is not worth ..

[redbor]

Сообщение от Sergei burly

clearance - and that fake Vyalov - a profitable business?

Why business?
Themselves say: a good picture.

But sell it better with the signature Vyalov.
That 's the signature.
compare it with the second ..
 
No business

[Евгений]

redbor, second paper kombinatovskaya .. It K. Vyalov 50-60's virtually no doubt .. .. At birochki necessarily have the data, when hud.sovet to combine this work took .. But you
right, it is better to live to watch .. all will be immediately clear.

[Сергей Дородный]

Сообщение от redbor

Why business? Themselves say: a good picture.
But sell it better with the signature Vyalov. That 's the signature. compare it with the second ..
 No business

A few thoughts - neither for nor against.
So - to maintain a pleasant conversation.

1. The first picture - pretty big. Horizontal format.
   This requires from the artist's great sense of composition.
   But track failed to work (and it is difficult to painting).
   So - a good artist.
   So why do not attributed to its author, who is unlikely to be
   less well known than Vyalov (once again very good artist).

2. The signatures on the first and second movie are very different.
    According to Property. experience, if not sign immediately, not in the dough
   it already does not flourish, shaking hands over a masterpiece.
   So that the difference in the signature is there, but it does not exclude
    Attribution Vyalov.

3. Explains who the Vyalov Russian man - long and hard.
      To convince the casual buyer that it is for this name must
     pay -..... For Voloshin and then just pay.

4. Stone in the picture - surely identifiable.
      So, let's say it really Semeiz.
      Can you imagine what a titanic work, find an artist who worked
      in Semeize, and an appropriate style. Then he found his niece and how it
      to persuade her to work together - like here's the work of his uncle, was found by chance, sell.
     Yes, and criminal act (forgery of signatures).
      
     In general, and entertaining puzzles.

[Евгений]

Sergei burly, I prefer the second ..

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от tandem

How much later?
On 10-20-40 years?

Well, about 40 years, I do not know, but the paintings 20 years ago, I can now sign completely.


And, say, Pavel Kuznetsov, like signing some of their stuff until much later.

And not only him.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Guriev, Igor; 1544711"

, but the paintings 20 years ago, I can sign now completely.

Anatoly, you are somehow literally began to say, you or the artists? Can sign work in 20 years ...?
If an artist is, of course, the signature on the "dry" have repeatedly discussed on the forum .. to work Vyalov is what is relevant? Normal signature, Painting and normal ...