Center Grabar banned issue expertise on letterhead Ministry of Culture

[Тихая Сапа]

As part of the gossip heard two news items.

Director of GRC Lesovoy went to the Ministry of Culture and had there prochuvstvovannnuyu talk about the examination department ... The result of the conversation different sides interpret differently ....


Association of Art Critics (AIS) plans to organize a center of expertise ... Competence, base, and warranties - all foggy ...

In this regard, two questions. 1) Does anyone have Dop.informatsiya
2) the number of expert centers increases, increases if the number of experts? Or you sell the same drug in four different bottles (and that's no fun for a different price?).

[lazycat]

Silent Sapa


Judging by the fact that Grabar working again as one pump, all of them in order.

Number of experts will not increase.
Increase prices only.
And the quality just drops.

[Евгений]

Artem, Expert Unit is operating normally, there is a prior record for examination ..
http://www.grabar.ru/everything they normally ..

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Artem; 1590101 "

Maybe someone knows more about what 's going on? and why such an interest in Kiseleva ..

Three days ago I spoke with Alexander Nikolayevich forests ( new director ) and Kiseleva . The Centre is working normally . From the interview still refuse . Mol let all ustakanetsya . Extra noise around is not needed now . About Kiseleva I personally have very good opinion , and other bad not heard .

[Artem]

Сообщение от Eugene ; 1590203 "

Expert Unit is operating normally

Yes , I know that Grabar running again and it pleases , but in any case, thank you for the tip - I'm not so much anything I ask in the forum . But as I understood the investigator is only interested in expertise rather than Grabar as an organization. How do I raskazali , two hours ago, we are talking about a subject specific expertise in research work ... The main thing - began to give ( or wants to ) the testimony of suspects in the case of high-profile antiques 2005 . case against him Separated as it is on the international wanted list , his testimony may be very valuable for the investigation. And, of course , extremely interesting to know for whom this will tell the person involved , ....

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Сообщение от Artem

And most importantly - began to give ( or wants to ) the testimony of suspects in the case of high-profile antiques 2005 . case against him Separated as it is on the international wanted list , his testimony may be very valuable for the investigation.

And as the person involved would testify if he wanted internationally (and hence outside the RF ) ?
The investigator in his country of residence on a business trip went for his testimony ?
" Loud antique business " is over a court decision , and even stints defendants, and that " the helper " , as you write , the " separate procedure " is , and how prepolagayu will examine the case first as a suspect , and only then investigator will make the decision to prosecute an accused . He is a witness , it is unlikely to be held .

[Artem]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 1590621 "

And as the person involved would testify if he wanted internationally (and hence outside the RF )?

Yes , he is wanted for the sixth year .

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

An investigator in the country of his stay in the trip went for his testimony ?

And this often happens . But in this case, negotiations are going to return him for a long time ...

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 1590621 "

and how prepolagayu will examine the case first as a suspect , and only then the investigator will make the decision to prosecute an accused . He is a witness , it is unlikely to be held

He wanted the accused . But his trial was not , and how will the court no one knows - . By law, he can testify in the case - for example , as a witness or an accomplice , as he could make a deal with the investigation. Everything can change because of newly discovered facts that were not known to the court in deciding defined . etc. We'll see how things develop ...

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Сообщение от Artem

But in this case, negotiations are going to return him for a long time ...

Yes ?
Interesting.
Dmitry Kuteinikov , known in some circles as Dima "The Bull " was going to go back to Russia ?
Sensation , you know ...
Incidentally , the decision on bringing Preobrazhensky as defendants on 17.10.2005 , the investigator for particularly important cases of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Interior Ministry Irina Konovalov wrote : Tatiana joined the conspiracy not only with her husband , but also with Kuteynikovym , who brought pictures and supplied them with false signatures .
The case will be reviewed Preobrazhensky makes it possible for the newly discovered evidence ?

[Artem]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

investigator for particularly important cases of the Investigative Committee under the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Russia Irina Konovalov wrote : Tatiana joined the conspiracy not only with her husband , but also with Kuteynikovym , who brought pictures and provided them with forged signatures .

All this does not really matter ...

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

It will be reviewed Preobrazhensky makes it possible for the newly discovered evidence ?

 I do not think - This is not the wrong people ! Yes, and this is unreal ...


As stated by the head of consequence . Group Semenov result not found accomplices in this case , verbatim words - we were unable to establish how and in what way were made examination. I suggest that we can talk about experts ...

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Сообщение от Artem; 1590711 "

the result is not found accomplices in this case , literally the word - we are not able to determine how and in what way were made examination ...

But who acquires at auction in Denmark pictures of Janus la Cura and Andersen - Lundby for " perelitsovki in pictures Orlovsky and Kiseleva consequence , to my knowledge , established . Payment of paintings at an auction by credit card .
And that means " we are not able to determine how and in what way were made examination ?
In fact there are indications sideteley Goryacheva and Kiseleva , at that time head of the department of scientific expertise GRC , there are expert opinions grabarevskie on their signature , the date stamp .

Сообщение от Artem

head consequence . of Semenov

He's already from the UK somewhere transferred . No ?