M. Gelman and Sochi

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Сообщение от iside

artcol, I think your political preferences greatly influence your process and Denia works of art .

Probably. But I have a great set of optics. Prompt in what beholds his work. May agree with your opinion. Pop up not only interesting but also useful.

Сообщение от iside

Speaking of getting ideas in art , I would have had a hard time called the person who is not employed in his work. Someone is successful, someone unsuccessfully , etc. etc.

Ideas come in all sizes .
It would be nice to have at least a little , but his own. Well, I do not see it. Handling a set of stamps - saw . It has bequeathed Fursenko

... lack of the Soviet education system was an attempt to form a human creator, and now the challenge is to nurture a qualified customer , able to skillfully use the results of other works

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

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Uncle Bone affects your incredulity .

Tomorrow , May 20 , the exhibition closes. She was supposed to be before June 23 , but today the muse of the artist said that the last day of the show tomorrow . Before closing time to get round the table with the discussion , which is scheduled in the halls of the museum at 5:00 pm .

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Toilets outside Moscow is of course important , but the theme of the post , " M. Gelman , Sochi resignation .. ..

Interesting discussion on the site " Russian Literature ... "
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Gelman's resignation - a sign of purification of our culture of questionable items or new offensive reactions to contemporary art ?

and we are all about toilets ....

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Сообщение от Eugene

Toilets outside Moscow is of course important , but the topic of the post , " M. Gelman , Sochi resignation .. .. "

Interesting discussion on the site " Russian Literature ... "
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Gelman's resignation - a sign of purification of our culture of questionable items or new offensive reactions to contemporary art ?

Ideally, these two forces - bigots and russophobes - must be in the face , to destroy each other , and make way for a healthy democratic forces , turned to the future .

iside, by the way, do not forget about my question :

I have a great set of optics. Prompt in what beholds his work. May agree with your opinion. Pop up not only interesting but also useful.

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With a blog on LiveJournal Marat ... ( risk is very strong, he understands it or not?)
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              Well, if the Sochi Olympics has played in my life such a role , I will start collecting

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make way for a healthy democratic forces , turned to the future .

Valery is you talking about? These " artists "? [/URL]
or something else? You difficult to understand ..

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Сообщение от artcol

Uncle Bone affects your incredulity.

So you yourself are confused: tell that a week ago and went to promoting the show on an open table, and now provides a link from which it is clear that the exhibition was closed more than a month ago.
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Сообщение от artcol; 2654171"

iside, by the way, do not forget about my question :

artcol, except what I have said, I have nothing to add :

Сообщение от iside; 2654001"

artcol, I think your political leanings have a significant impact on either the process of seeing works of art .

Optics - shmoptika - it's lyrical and rhetorical retreat, as a joke , a housewife complained that neighbors hung out badly wash clothes , and she actually had a glass of muddy dirt.

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Сообщение от Eugene; 2654131"

Interesting discussion on the site "Russian Literature ..."

And for my taste interesting discussion, for example, ARTronike, than this piece of Black Hundred:

Joseph Bakshtein
Director of the Institute of Contemporary Art, the Commissioner of the Moscow Biennale of Contemporary Art

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Perm cultural project will definitely take place, which is why even after the departure of Gelman it will evolve. Marat has created so many new and interesting for the cultural environment of Perm, that there was a whole range of his colleagues and associates that are sure to continue the changes started. Another thing is that they will need support because of Marat care - definitely a tough test. He has done a lot to make Perm in Russia's cultural capital, and indeed, for some time, it has become her: there appeared important artistic initiatives talented artists moved there and brought fresh ideas. Understandably, they caused a mixed reaction of the local artistic community. There really was the potential for conflicts between that creative environment that existed in Perm until Marat Gelman, and its initiatives, to express quite radically. But what the Perm Museum of Contemporary Art, which was headed by Marat, has become one of the leading art institutions in Russia, it is virtually certain.

Diana Machulina
artist

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Probably not finished, but it will be quite sluggish stretch, because here was important personality Marat. If you recall, without it, there was his gallery, everything will become clear. Yes, there was still a collection of great artists, but she was not such a brilliant art institution, as in Gelman. I think that in the Perm museum will no longer be as strong projects, as in the days when Marat was its director.

Overestimate what made Gelman and his team, you can not. At one point, there was a feeling that all the fun takes place in Perm. I know many people who quite seriously wanted to move there. Of course, everyone blamed the city itself as extremely depressing, but there was a very rich cultural life. Unfortunately, marsh obscurantist resistance on the ground, despite the best efforts of Marat won. Artistic environment can not occur in a couple of years where there was no prerequisites for this.

Marat was blamed for the fact that he brought to Perm and Western metropolitan art and local artists are not supported. But that would be supporting! Local artists had to learn to watch when they show remarkable art. And even shown what was not in Moscow. Was created wonderful brand "Russian Povera", which is really outside the box represented the Russian art on the international scene. In this case, all very fond reproach Permian administration is that public money is spent on questionable cultural projects. And what they spent before, when there was not yet Marat, no one was interested. If only nothing new is happening. New we always terribly afraid. In fact, this wave of resistance and ruined everything. Marat, for all his energy is also not iron.

Stanislav Lviv
poet, writer, curator of the literary festival "SlovoNova" in Perm in 2009

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In Russia, as we know, there are no institutions, all initiatives are personalist character. That's why the departure of Marat Permian cultural project is likely to be minimized. I is not no way he can continue, although, of course, anything can happen. I do not recall a single case in the last ten years to any institution continued to operate at a radical change of command. Perm cultural project has been extremely useful and important, above all, because life is pretty gloomy northern Russian city of four years has become much more interesting, colorful and diverse. I think it is no exaggeration to say that Perm is really in a sense has become a cultural capital. Young men and women with their own eyes saw that in addition to patriotic songs about the State Duma by Kobzon, there's some other life and other art. It is unfortunate that the next generation of young people in Perm will be deprived of this.

Nicholas Palazhchenko
art manager, curator of course RMA «Art gallery business and management»

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On the future of the Permian cultural project it was clear after the departure of Oleg Chirkunova as governor. Marat Gelman - the most prominent figure to have a whole team that created and pushed forward the Permian cultural revolution, GAD had at least five or six key players. That they were all drivers of change - from the senator and governor Gordeeva Chirkunova to regional Ministers of Culture and Milgram Protasiewicz. All these people their jobs no longer occupy.

Feature story titled "Marat Gelman headed the Perm Museum of Contemporary Art" is that his ambition may be even less for the actual museum. Museum as an institution, probably took place, but we can not say that he seemed particularly advantageous to look at the background of other regional institutions. That is, from the point of view of the museum, there was no breakthroughs, but it seems to me that the museum was not a top priority Marat Aleksandrovich - for him it was more important impact on the cultural politics of the region, the creation of Perm audience for contemporary art, not so much art, how do contemporary culture - music, theater and poetry. This project is very difficult to assess, as is unparalleled. If we had other examples of such phenomena, then one could compare them and draw conclusions. Besides basic assessment should give themselves Permian - the same new audience created by these projects. In any case, the result of these projects can be seen immediately, but after some time.

Marina Lochak
curator, art director of the Moscow Military District "Arena»

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I hope that the Permian project does not curdle. Elena Oleinikova - a worthy candidate for the post of director of the museum, able to continue begun Marat business. It is clear that the museum is strongly tied to the identity of Gelman, but I believe it made any irreversible steps that will allow all of this to continue. It's not even any specific exhibitions, and the fact that there have been changes in the strategic properties that are much more important. Perm was almost the only Russian city, which began to take place processes characteristic of European cultural policies. We have seen how sensible policy has turned into a provincial environment is not provincial. This helps the city to grow, not only culturally, but also in all others, including economic.

Andrei Erofeev
art historian, curator

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I think the museum is doomed to destruction. This is all the more sad that the museum created Gelman turned into a world-class institution. Perm cultural project can be called a miracle because it was a jump from zero to incredible heights. But in the current political context of the progressive collapse of the whole, alive and intelligent, unfortunately, has become a rule. I am sure that after the departure of Marat Museum repeat the fate of NTV, the magazine "Results" of the newest trends of the Tretyakov Gallery - will substitute a truly functioning institution of its fiction. And that's at best.

Victor Miziano
curator, art critic, editor in chief of "Art Magazine»

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Inner confidence that the project is over, I have not. But it is important to say the following. The regional administration has completed a stay of Marat as director of the Perm Museum of Contemporary Art dismissal, and this is a big mistake. No matter how we evaluated the activity of Marat Gelman, his public behavior and the role of conditional Varyag, who arrived from the capital of the province, and no matter how we evaluated the museum itself, one thing is certain - the Perm museum created by Marat Gelman. He will continue to exist or will be closed, the fact remains - the administration of ousted founder of the museum. This situation will remain part of the traumatic history of the museum, which will work against the bureaucrats, and more and more.

It is clear that Gelman by temperament, education, and learning styles of artistic culture is not a classical museum person. It's not a typical scientist, researcher, author publications with scientific degrees - in short, it is not a case of Irina Antonova or Michael Piotrowski. On the other hand, if we look at the most important cultural institutions in Moscow, all of them are headed by people not institutional. In this respect, Gelman is part of the new Soviet art establishment. But of all his other features understanding of culture as a part of social dynamics, the understanding of the most important components that make up the essence of the artistic life. Many colleagues of Marat Gelman these qualities just not enough. Apparently, the director of the museum in its classic sense of our society is not required. Otherwise, these people certainly would have appeared and stood at the head of our institutions.

Alice Prudnikova
Director of the NCCA Ekaterinburg, Ural Industrial Biennale commissioner

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next year will be to test the strength of the museum - as far as it has become a mechanism capable of functioning without Marat Gelman. Unfortunately, in this project the rhetoric was always running ahead of action, and this, in my view, wrong. But the Perm Museum of Contemporary Art is an invaluable capital - reputation. This PR, which was at PERMM - extremely rare for a regional history museum. Also, Marat left a very strong collection that are the envy of any museum of modern art. But for me personally, the main result of the Permian of the project is that over the years has grown a great art-manager Helen Oleinikova, which is now designated as acting director of the museum. I'm sure she will be able to cope with all the difficulties and raise the museum to new heights.

Dmitry Hankin
co-owner of the gallery "Triumph»

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I think so. Perm cultural project - first of all, the merit Gelman. His museum was a success, if only because of him that knew the whole country. In terms of PR, it is just a successful project. In general, any attempt to develop regional projects within the stagnant and dead Russian market to command respect, no matter what they were completed. I am very grateful to Marat for this project. After his departure, the museum will be live as normal a regional muzeychik. Gelman - a visionary and also a man with great experience. In order to deal with such projects, it is necessary to have these two qualities - experience and little craziness visionary plan. If Perm authorities will not find another person of this kind, the museum will be bent and will turn an ordinary provincial shnyagi.

Vladimir Ovcharenko
gallery owner Regina, founder of the auction Vladey

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I think that his fate is sealed leaving Marat Gelman. It is unlikely that things will develop further in the vein in which it is planned to Marat. The museum will continue to exist, but how - difficult to predict. In any case, it will be something completely different project. I was not in Perm, but judging by what I read, I see in the news and hear from people who visit this city, there were important processes associated not only with contemporary art, but in general the culture - theater, cinema, music. In this sense, the influence and contribution of Marat huge. How all this will develop further without it, it's hard to say.

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Сообщение от Eugene; 2654191"

Valery is you talking about? These "artists"?

This is the opinion of any writer Andrey Bychkov in the "Literary Russia" on your own link:

Gelman is really a pity. You will look in the program from its festival "White Nights in Perm ', for example, in the book section, where -" Creative Laboratory poetry pies "," Breakfast with the writer Alexander Archangel "... - and vomit. And then there's the public debate with the mainstream Lev Rubinstein on minorities and the marginalized, in which he, of course, and writes itself. It makes you want to cry out: Let The Lion, yes it is we, the avant-garde - the marginalized and the minority among you, captivated his conceptualism all expanses of the Russian culture! But if painfully familiar gelmanschinu just want to wince and spitting (well, gagging us, avant-garde, well, okay), then looking at the obscurantist, really getting scared.

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Nikas Safronov , artist

Gelman's resignation - it is certainly cleansing of our art of crooks and imbeciles . Until a few years ago in the book " Great Nikas " I said what I thought about the exhibition in Perm and the activities of Marat Gelman .

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Nikas great ?!? [/SIZE][SIZE="5 " ]book ?!?[/SIZE] Rather, the name of the mental illness.

Incredible analogy with Zlatopustom Lockhart from Harry Potter movie . Who saw will understand .

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

So you yourself are confused: tell that a week ago promoting the show and went on to open a table, and now give link from which it is clear that the exhibition was closed more than a month ago.
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Сообщение от iside

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Nikas great ?!? [/SIZE][SIZE="5 " ]book ?!?[/SIZE] Rather, the name of the mental illness.

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- Where's the prosecutor ? - In the sixth ward, where Napoleon was before . ( c) < ! - ~ 7 ~ ->

Interestingly , the home of " artist " in the " cultural capital of Russia " in the city of Ulyanovsk will soon open House Museum Nikas Safronov ?
I hope this will suit Memorial Lenin .