Plein Air to abstract

[ВОля]

Lena, you, as always, well done! Forces you, patience and good luck! Fulfillment of all you planned! I did not expect so many users will respond to this event. Yes, after all, you've had an interesting idea. Although I, too, as some users who first began to question your business name. There are many debated the term itself, of course controversial, but in fact the most important - not the name of the plein air, and its result! And the result, I think, prevzashel expectations! Yes, and you were able to organize an exhibition, not only in Kamenetz-Podolsk, and Kiev, and this is something so mean! As always pleased when our, Sevastopol and the Crimean artists somewhere and show them more positive reviews they write. However, very surprised to see Lena Vilchukovu Vovka and Novikov in the company of academics (from 'Abstract of the Academy "). A Boychuk, as always, is good, and Edward Kulish! Interestingly, and in Sevastopol you show her, and that's very interesting!
Thank you!

[tam]

Hello. Reading about the open air, I remember Alain Kirtsova already explored this theme in a series of "North", which introduced the gradual abstraction of the landscape. Last Work "series" - two strips, which on one hand represent a certain scheme of landscape, its ultimate simplification, and on the other - do not depict anything, being the fact that we see before us in reality - the canvas covered with paint.

[GalARTA]

Сообщение от Will, 1517863

was surprised to see Lena Vilchukovu Vovka and Novikov in the company of" academics "(from the Academy of abstract art")

In this project, we should not overestimate the Academy of abstract art. Firstly, I am not a member of this association and do not do their promotion, and secondly were only five of 14 participants, with the best series too, did not they (not counting St. Nicholas, which "beat all"). The event was not trailing and leading - there were very experienced and young artists - but they are all well established and educated people. I am very glad that in the Crimea are many such artists. Even nicer that we are closer, and with representatives of kievsogo postavngarda. I must say that many artists have not been able to change their New Year - January the plans and I hope that formed the backbone of the second open-air in May. Our task - to present to the public and to discover as much as possible new names or draw uzheizvestnyh mastrerov to our project.
Our affiliate team would like to make a gift to yourself and the audience to the 100 anniversary of abstract art)))

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Сообщение от tam

reading about the open air, I remember Alain Kirtsova already explored this theme in a series of" North "

Many thanks for the link, and for such interesting memories! For us it is very important information. I would be grateful to everyone for such memories.

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Сообщение от Will, 1517863

and in Sevastopol you show her, and something very interesting?!

Sorry, did not answer the question. About Sevastopol until I can not do skazat.Kazhdaya exhibition - it's a lot of work and money. Maybe someone from the Crimean partners and will offer us the event and osnosnye force until directed to prepare the second and third development outdoors. Thank you all for your interest in our project.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от GalARTA

I prefer to debate a simple Russian language, without unnecessary pseudo-scientific, but if you are so important - if you please.

You call my text "pseudoscientific", ie you think he only scientific mind (I must say that I do not think art studies science in the strict sense of the word, but it now is not it). Well, well, let's say. In this case, you will not be difficult to specify exactly what my statements create the appearance of science, not a matter of fact as such? What word or sentence you seemed empty, or could be replaced with "simple Russian language? If you can not do it, then I will be forced to doubt your ability to lead a discussion at a high intellectual level. And this level precludes the use of the discussion unfounded and insulting to the opponent claims.
Once you have entered in our dialogue definition of "pseudo-scientific", then the disclosure of its meaning as an example I would choose some of your text, such as this one:
 

Сообщение от GalARTA

This year we oprobuem new plein-air - for artists - and fans of avant-garde abstraction. Not a new topic, but in the context of plein air painting sounds different. "Abstractive series" are well known to all who himself is an abstraction and considers himself a pro, just not all of them so called or not always think that they actually wrote.)))
For me, plein air for 11 th, but the first unrealistic. This year brought together several partners (Gala Hotel, HBA, a group of companies, "Hello" and I), which was interesting to see themselves and show the spectators and skeptics that abstract artist actually know how to draw, and realist artists, if they are well taught and they are talented will always be able to create non-objective abstract painting.

This is a classic example of pseudo-scientific!
scientific-sounding,-th, th;-zen,-values. Researcher only in appearance, giving the appearance of scientific character.
Dictionary Ozhegova. SI Burns, NJ Shvedova. 1949-1992.

Сообщение от GalARTA

Lord, let us refrain from editing their texts at the time of the discussion. Sitting at the negotiating table because you are deprived of such opportunities.

What is the meaning of your claim? I do not understand what those rules of decency I have broken? I posted this to your text and edited it for 10 minutes. What is this objectionable? Especially because you responded to my post is only an hour later! No negotiations with you, I am not and do not intend to. I am debating with you and use at the same time technical opportunities offered by this forum. I suggest not to go beyond discussion.

[GalARTA]

Сообщение от Tiutchev

If you can not do it, then I will be forced to doubt your ability to lead a discussion at a high intellectual level. And this level precludes the use of the discussion unfounded and insulting to the opponent claims.

Dear Tyutchev do this to me, really, it's hard because you have edited the middle paragraph of his speech, created in 8-43, to which I responded in 3 minutes. (We have a difference in time 1 hour) At the time of updating the page Your message has been edited and changed. That's why I wrote a second message on editing texts. Now this conversation has already empty. You certainly have the right to edit your own posts that you did ... We all use this right, changing more or less successful formulation.

[GalARTA]

Dear colleagues and friends!
By my calculations, those who really are interested in this subject was typed 32 people!
I am a newbie on the forum and do not know - a lot or a little.

because of objections by artists of this request, a survey was deleted.

[Seriy]

GalARTA, you can easily add a poll to an existing topic?

the type of poll prints?

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showthread.php?t=107951

how to do it-

http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...81#post1506281

[GalARTA]

Сообщение от Seriy

You can easily add a poll to an existing topic?

Thanks for the tip. I will try to do in the evening. Now - no)))


It is not clear as to demonstrate once again all 79 works - they are scattered in the discussion, it turns out that I can only name in the questionnaire to write, but this is only 1 /5 part.
Dear colleagues, let's dispense with the questionnaire. If we zabuksuem, then I will ask the administrator. Thanks in advance.

[Тютчев]

Сообщение от GalARTA

Dear Tyutchev do this to me, really, it's hard because you have edited the middle paragraph of his speech, created in 8-43, to which I responded in 3 minutes. (We have a difference in time 1 hour) At the time of updating the page Your message has been edited and changed. That's why I wrote a second message on editing texts. Now this conversation has already empty. You certainly have the right to edit your own posts that you did ... We all use this right, changing more or less successful formulation.

Dear GalARTA, in this discussion, you are my opponent, so I asked you to specify your characterization of my text. You defined it as "science-like." You should be aware that by doing so you assert that my position is set out in this thread, is untenable. But I could not even get reasonable explanation, based on what you are doing such a conclusion. Edit my text did not change its essence. I just adjusted it slightly, so the meaning is identical to the first variant. Let me remind you that science-like call such a text, which looks only at the scientific mind, not being such content. And if you apply this definition to describe opponents of the text, then this must be serious grounds. You may have a little heated in the heat of controversy, and use that word lightly. I am ready to understand and more to this do not come back. Especially because I have no desire to spend time on this, as you rightly pointed out, empty talk. I propose to consider this matter closed.

P.S. Forum always registers only Moscow time communications regardless of where you are. If you send a message through the third minute, then it would be registered as a message sent through this time.

[GalARTA]

Сообщение от Tiutchev

I propose to consider this matter closed.

Gratefully accept the offer.
If we do not discuss our contradictions, then maybe you will answer questions (or part of the questionnaire)? Can not be that none of the established pattern in the open air does not suit your requirements of "high art" and "abstract art in general." I think that our friends and opponents of your views on these matters will be sincerely interested.