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Старый 24.10.2010, 05:02 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1
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По умолчанию Can I bring cockroaches? Forum one year later

Love will be held. Cheat passion.
, but devoid of deception
Magic structure cockroach.
Oh, cockroach splayed legs, which are six!
They are about something they say they are in the air scrawl written,
Their shapes are full of hidden meanings ...
Yes, a cockroach that is there,
When he moves the foot and sways tendril.
(Oleynikov)


So fate decreed that I was absent from the forum over a year, and when re-emerged, the first thing that caught my eye - a huge number of cockroaches ... ... Yes, yes, this unsuppressable insect I had to meet at the expanse of the once of my favorite site ... However, judge for yourself:

«The art is not important purchase and possession"
"Artists who were born between 1906 and 1916, belong to a lost generation. There is no one outstanding. Nowhere "
"One vydrygivaetsya (" user "may say so) and the other seriously ... toys to play with ...
"Man needs a standard set of gentleman: in front, rear and signature"
"You are completely ignorant of art."
"It turns out, had already planned to" circle Gapchinskaya? DOBCHINSKY, Gopchinsky, Rudikova? Mudikova? Gudikova? Zhudikova? Zhulikova? Pudikova? "
"I've been in Russia for Russian troeshnikom chzyku periehal .. and the Ukraine became an excellent student»


These are the first caught my eye specimens of texts is not with some foul language forum, and the once sturdy and well-respected sections on auctions, exhibitions, artists, styles. Moreover, they had to be somewhat correct, that all could somehow read it. Spelling of the original, I tried to keep the maximum.

As the instruction to destroy the cockroaches, this respected livestock settles over large areas. As can be seen, she began to actively colonize the virtual space as well.

In my time on the forum as an intrusion of these insects: remember, for example, stunning in its absurdity discussion about the work of the great Sarah, who led, or rather, led to the world a very stubborn tarakaniha. That's when a good laugh! We Cyril not sleep all night, exchanging letters and dodging the poisonous saliva of our fiery counterpart.

But then the cockroach attacks were a marginal phenomenon, so - caused only laughter and positive emotions. But now, when I again, after a year pause, visited the site, the reality they saw I was not so funny. "Tarakanizm" (so called this phenomenon) has gained features a stable system. Those people were once brightly painted on the forum have got themselves into position poisoned cockroaches, hiding in holes. Virtually invisible Liana, just missing Cyril. There are not many others. But the cockroaches running the show. Opening the countless roach so they multiply rapidly in space. Even where there lurks an interesting idea - they are right there. Pounce on a subject that could turn into an interesting discussion, and to gnaw her bones.

If the real roaches eat paper, glue to the book bindings, soap, ink, watercolors, and even the corpses of their dead colleagues, the virtual roaches feed on human feelings, thoughts, ideas, art, culture, and the souls of people do not disdain. Feces that they excrete after eating these worthy products - obscurantism, self-confidence, peremptory tone, inability to speak and listen, contempt for the opinion of others - are toxic and threaten surrounding the epidemic. And that means there is a need to develop sanitary measures to avoid contamination.

However, cockroach epidemic - a disease almost every forum, every forum and struggling with it as best he can. So, friends, drawing on experience from other forums and their own reflections, I beg to offer a little creative recipes for the removal of the tenacious tribe. Of course, all the cockroaches can not withdraw, but you can try the best to protect themselves from their corrupting influence.

The recipe first. Must somehow change (tighten) the rules of the forum on how to conduct discussions on it. Perhaps the ban shy about the topic and to translate it into a completely pointless track. Next. Need, in my opinion, to cancel does not justify a system of assigning points for the number of messages. It only feeds the appetite of cockroaches career, pushing them to write many times in each and every topic. This flawed system allows the cockroaches to pile more points, and then from the height reached the pedestal to judge everything and everyone. Third. Necessary, in my opinion, create a sort of Committee for Protection of the forum from the cockroaches of the most respected members of the community, and his committee to impute a code of the forum, a kind of constitution.

These are my humble observations. And as an outsider, as someone who saw the forum with fresh eyes after a year's absence, I can say with full responsibility: if you, brethren, we do not start a crusade against cockroaches, if not plagued by them, if left unchecked, these cockroach races, we can and turned themselves into cockroaches, as happened with the unfortunate Gregor from Kafka's story, risking as it is to be crushed and thrown in the trash. He who has ears, let him hear ...




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Старый 24.10.2010, 11:10 Язык оригинала: Русский       #2
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recipe first. Must somehow change (tighten) the rules of the forum on how to conduct discussions on it. Perhaps the ban shy about the topic and to translate it into a completely pointless track. Next. Need, in my opinion, to cancel does not justify a system of assigning points for the number of messages. It only feeds the appetite of cockroaches career, pushing them to write many times in each and every topic. This flawed system allows the cockroaches to pile more points, and then from the height reached the pedestal to judge everything and everyone. Third. Necessary, in my opinion, create a sort of Committee for Protection of the forum from the cockroaches of the most respected members of the community, and his committee to impute a code of the forum, a kind of constitution.
The problem with cockroaches is solved on time, it's only a matter of administration.



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Старый 24.10.2010, 19:15 Язык оригинала: Русский       #3
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Stanislavsky,


There have been brave people who told about their dislikes.
Name the cockroaches you are.



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Старый 24.10.2010, 20:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #4
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Stanislavsky,

There have been brave people who told about their dislikes. Call cockroaches and you.
Dear dedulya37,
even naming names cockroaches, we do not solve the main issue. Yes, and it is not in the names. Need to address the issue systematically, so I offered my 3 points. That the forum would continue to stay at the proper level, it should be, I think, to work out some kind of collective strategy, which give the status of rules. To do this, and need a "council of elders", which could include you, Cyril, Liana, Artlaver, Oleg Tzu and many others thought the forum participants. Among the administrative measures here, I think, do not get off.

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That's right, but do not hang tags and insult people by calling them pests. As I understand it, the forum does not expect an audience only with an academic education, because often people with a recognized authority write quite illiterate, but interesting.
Dear Vlasta,
I'm not a persecutor of cockroaches - quite the contrary. But generally, about which I dreamed of - a situation where every cockroach knows its burrow. I highlight this topic existential dimension, where a cockroach - a victim, and can save him from the fate of a cockroach high level of responsibility and self-consciousness, with the introduction of which I am here and plead. Here's how to write the famous oberiut Nikolai Oleynikov:

Cockroach pressed to the glass
And looks barely breathe ...
He would not fear death,
If I knew a soul.

But science has proven
That the soul does not exist
That liver, bone, fat -
That's what makes the soul.

So, it is our task to prove the confused cockroach, there is a God and a soul.




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Старый 24.10.2010, 20:54 Язык оригинала: Русский       #5
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I'm not a persecutor of cockroaches - quite the contrary. But generally, about which I dreamed of - a situation where every cockroach knows its burrow. I highlight this topic existential dimension
I think not so versed in the philosophy of how you and the uniqueness of being irrational cockroach has the opportunity to speak on any philosophical forum. Your idea is well understood, I mean somewhat different, namely, derogatory feedback about other forum members.
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Stanislavsky, only out of respect for the glorious pleyade Poet obEriuty.

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Here's how to write the famous oberiut Nikolai Oleynikov:




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need to address systematically, so I offered my 3 points. That the forum would continue to stay at the proper level,
I think that it's hard to argue, I think all would agree that there is a need to keep level. Very correct topic, I agree with Stanislavski that we should solve the problem systemically. Perhaps the item proposed by a party not so bad:
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Third. Necessary, in my opinion, create a sort of Committee for Protection of the forum of the most respected members of the community, and his committee to impute a code of the forum, a kind of constitution.



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imputed to the development of the Code Forum, a sort of constitution.
This code and the constitution will have to abide by all forum users, regardless of its affiliation to any "group by sympathy?



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Старый 28.10.2010, 21:59 Язык оригинала: Русский       #9
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Thank you, my friends Cyril and SAH, on the good word, but I think you should not respond to every cockroach bites. In this we were all of them would not outplay. I am glad that this topic has become a sort of litmus test, as illustrated by me above, a clear example of what turns into a forum. I would also like us to show here is qualitatively different level of discussion and co-developed policies and procedures of civilized communication. If this issue becomes a testing ground for such an experiment, I will take my zalachu done.
And the last. On the woodpecker. This is a very useful bird, which destroys harmful to the environment Stead insects, including - and cockroaches.

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The code and the constitution will have to abide by all forum users, regardless of its affiliation to any "group by sympathy"?
Exactly. And the heated debate within the Code is completely shown, and even necessary.




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Stanislavsky, just for the sake of truth, woodpeckers live in the woods, and cockroaches are killed by freezing temperatures and, respectively, in the forest can not live without.
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