Art as a commodity: Paradoxes and patterns

[Seriy]

Сообщение от Peter

If he had the money (though more or less) , the Van Gogh would still painted his paintings , only because he was an artist at heart , at its heart .. not a " small shopkeeper ." FE van Gogh .

 And from what it should be ? The thought of becoming an artist he has appeared, when other options have failed . That is, he did not write any pictures and was quite happy . If anyone had initially told him that he had with the commercial side of the paintings will not work and it does not earn money myself or my brother , and will only boarder , then , IMHO, he would not have this contact . All of his brother - calculation was giving him money, he paints pictures , brother sells and returns the money at a profit. And why an artist , not a shoemaker , because the family was just in the business of buying and selling paintings. Te he returned to the family business .

[Peter]

Сообщение от Seriy

And from what it should be ? The thought of becoming an artist he has appeared, when other options have failed . That is, he did not write any pictures and was quite happy . If anyone had initially told him that he had with the commercial side of the paintings will not work and it does not earn money myself or my brother , and will only boarder , then , IMHO, he would not have this contact . All of his brother - calculation was giving him money, he paints pictures , brother sells and returns the money at a profit. And why an artist , not a shoemaker , because the family was just in the business of buying and selling paintings. Te he returned to the family business .

A brother was a " mug " and did not realize that sell paintings by Vincent does not really at that point ? I think there was an attempt to " save face, do not be a freeloader ." Vincent refused the opportunity to work on custom illustrations for magazines and so forth , that he proposed , but he wanted to write what he wants and how I want vsemu.Eto contrary to the true MADNESS commercial venture.

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2761701 "

The idea of becoming an artist he has appeared, when other options have failed . That is, he did not write any pictures and was quite happy .

And from what it should be ? And what kind of options that fiasco ? Vincent Van Gogh , working in the London branch of Goupil & Cie, got lucky dealer , earning good money , and if it were not for the debacle in the " affairs of the heart ", as a consequence of depression and fascination with the Bible , perhaps he would not have rushed to preachers .

Сообщение от Seriy; 2761701 "

Why is an artist , not a shoemaker , because the family was just in the business of buying and selling paintings .

Vincent and Theo 's father was a pastor , like their grandfather .
A mother ...

Сообщение от Seriy; 2722261 "

Van Gogh's mother dumped in the yard of a bunch of his paintings , that were taken by anyone who needs to, which is not taken away, burned

She was from a family of a bookbinder and bookseller .

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Seriy

And from what it should be ? The thought of becoming an artist he has appeared, when other options have failed . That is, he did not write any pictures and was quite happy ...... brother gives him the money, he paints pictures , brother sells and returns the money at a profit. And why an artist , not a shoemaker , because the family was just in the business of buying and selling paintings. Te he returned to the family business .

A lot of Vincent van Gogh - journalistic fiction. First of all, Vincent van Gogh was a good tsvetovik . And standing on top of color development in the mid-19th . A good draftsman . Is not there by accident ...

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Artoil-A

Many of Vincent van Gogh - journalistic fiction. First of all, Vincent van Gogh was a good tsvetovik . And standing on top of color development in the mid-19th . A good draftsman . By chance is not there ...

Sorry , I just now looked at your age and was amazed ... Your knowledge about the artists of the young men are equal knowledge about old age ... Well, you can not write such things , and even on a dedicated website. You talk like a bazaar - somewhere someone said something ...

[Seriy]

Peter, I do not know what was real and what was not ... Were in the 19th century and the more unusual , nemeynstrimovye artists than Van Gogh , for example, Odilon Redon or abstract Turner. And Van Gogh , IMHO, could not write otherwise , it is interesting here to compare with Gauguin , he did knowingly , prudently , the fact that Van Gogh often did , simply because otherwise could not , could not. And both have created one - the foundation of modernity .

Cyril Syzransky, no , my thought was different.
Here are some nick the word product immediately understand something second-rate and unnecessary real connoisseur of art and the consumer . And the word I mean the product is exactly what a real connoisseur of art and the consumer will buy once and not razdumyaya , because it will have all the qualities that he , the consumer was looking for.
Here's a resident of London, which publishes interesting and full reviews of the London art fairs , once wrote , in essence , the Fair 2012 is no different from 2011 - the same picture , the same artists with the same pictures. And the galleries and artists shut down the entire spectrum of needs and so that there is a new product , you need a buyer with the new requirements . As these needs are being formed , so the new paintings and will be .
The idea that an artist can give birth to something completely new, beautiful, but unreal . Once upon a time Vladimir Bogdanov said that it is necessary to buy a "new Picasso " , te expect the arrival of an artist with the same degree of innovation and productivity. To which I replied that an artist can never and never will. It is incredible too , and the art market operates that is. There are fans of abstract expressionism , there are artists, there are fans of Art Nouveau , we have artists such minimalism , too, is. All niches are occupied , the goods created.

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Сообщение от Seriy; 2761811 "

Here's a resident of London, which publishes interesting and full reviews of the London art fairs , once wrote , in essence , the Fair 2012 is no different from 2011 - the same picture , the same artists with the same paintings. And the galleries and artists shut down the entire spectrum of needs and so that there is a new product , you need a buyer with the new requirements . As these needs are being formed , so the new paintings and will .

Correct wrote about the fair and the fair - it's just annual market, annually recurring sale goods.

[Peter]

Сообщение от Artoil-A

And stood at the top of color development of the mid-19th century.
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Van Gogh was born on March 30, 1853, in the middle of the 19th century and a maximum at this time could only learn to walk ..
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Сообщение от Seriy; 2761811 "

too is incredible , and the art market functions that is. There are fans of abstract expressionism , there are artists, there are fans of Art Nouveau , we have artists such minimalism , too, is. All niches are occupied , the goods created.

Lucien Freud wanted to spit on all these " started PRODUCTS ", and said he wanted and what he wanted, and as a result lifetime of fame , the world's best platform for the honor honored to do exposition of his works , the amount of millions of dollars have already paid for life for its operation.

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Сообщение от Buscador

You talk like a bazaar - somewhere someone said something ...

 
And the art of the participant learned in the market - on the street selling pictures: Arbat, Izmailovo Vernissage.

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Сообщение от Buscador

You talk like a bazaar - somewhere someone said something ...

 
And the art of the participant learned in the market - on the street selling pictures: Arbat, Izmailovo Vernissage.