St. Petersburg artists sue Sergei Bugaev (Afrika)

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Сообщение от Hollandup

is not all sold out

Yes, Bugaev revealed at the show to steal, but not yet sold paintings.

And how much he has already sold over these 25 years?

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so quietly drinking coffee

Enjoy your meal.

[Hollandup]

Still stolen - it loudly when they voluntarily surrendered, so the court is not criminal, but sales have been - it's even good for the artist.

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still stolen - it loudly when they voluntarily gave

Their " voluntarily gave " to the show.
After the exhibition of authors have not been returned , and her manager told the artists that work gone.
Perhaps you do not consider the behavior of Bugaev as theft .
Well, your right.

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but sales have been - it's even good for the artist.

Yes ? And the fact that the work is also signed by another name " good for the artist "?
During this swindler also have to thank ?

[Hollandup]

Yeah, I did not hesitate to declare like this (or even think) about a famous person Sergei Bugaev and about artists, based on articles in the press, not knowing the whole situation personally and their contracts.
Let the situation becomes clearer.

[тандем]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Bugaev behavior you do not see as theft.

Well, your right.

Theft or not the court will decide, once an action is brought.
It is hoped that the decision of the court (unlike you) does not affect the fact that Bugaev was a confidant of Putin.

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fee for the examination of cultural values ​​is not "duty" and " export clearance ".


Law of the Russian Federation of 15.04.1993 N 4804-1 "On Export and import of cultural values":

This is what we know.

For the services of an expert you have to pay - 370 rubles, or 560 rubles, depending on the "age" work.

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Stealing this court will decide whether or not

The court will consider the request to return the paintings to authors and has sued two of them are considered:

PETERSBURG, August 8 - rape, Ilya Grigoriev.
 Dzerzhinsky Court of St. Petersburg on Thursday handed over the case to another judge at the suit of the artist Evgenij Kozlov to Sergei "Africa" ​​Bugaev demanding the return of the picture, as it is already under consideration by a similar lawsuit three other artists, said the legal representative of the plaintiff Andrey Vasilyev.

St. Petersburg artists Oleg Zaika, Inal Savchenko, Evgeny Kozlov and Oleg Maslov sued Sergei "Africa" ​​Bugaev once found at the "ACCA: the latest generation of the Leningrad avant-garde" more than two dozen of his works.

"Today was one of the preparatory meetings. Judge decided to refer the case to another judge - Isaevoj, since she is considering a previously filed case in the action of three other artists - Maslov, Savchenkova and Bunny" - said Vasilyev.

According to him, the first meeting of the class action lawsuit brought Maslova, Savchenkova and Bunny will be held on August 12. The issue of unification of affairs at the moment is not resolved by the court. "The decision on joinder may be taken at the next meeting, scheduled for August 27," - said Vasilyev.

Sergei Bugaev not come into judgment, sending a representative. "What is the position of the defendant at the moment neither the court nor we do not know at all. On contact with my principals or with me as long as the defendant does not go, there are no negotiations at this time was not spent. Judge after consulting the parties on the recognition of the claim, but the defendants from This flatly refused, "- said the lawyer.

According to him, the requirements of the four artists to Bugaev not associated with some financial issues, "they just want to get back his authorship of"

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Сообщение от Hollandup

But maybe Mr. Bugaev evaluates their contribution ( material and immaterial ) high, and artists , in turn, did not appreciate his contribution at all

The fact ... Just think - took out .

Took out - then profited !
We believed him , and he with pomatrosil - dropped !
And anyway ...

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However, some sold , some sold signed by other names .

This is what , for example? I'm probably missing something ...

A senseless dispute , the court will decide - so be it .

[Ирина Ивановна]

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Bugaev should allocate a percentage of the sale of paintings by artists (or artists Bugaev), given the fact that he also invested tangible and intangible resources to the promotion of these artists.

Who told you that you put in, Bugaev?

Nothing he never invested, acted as the recipient, and most of his other comrades in the art group "New", including Nyquist, Sotnikov, Ovchinikova etc. were donors. Once they realized this, since 1991 \\\\ 2 stopped giving Africa in general, and his paintings began to refuse to participate with him in the exhibitions, once felt that it applies to them for leadership and guidance role.

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in any case, whether the export of paintings (scenery), crossing the border (legally) was recorded, especially by the rules and laws of the USSR.

the second fact, timely submission of an application to the police about the disappearance of paintings. The loss was not framed.

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As far as I understood from media interviews, the artists in the discussed case is not directly involved in efforts to export. Took out a person who has been committed to the companionship of pictures to present as part of the cultural program Pop Mechanics.

To make the loss of pictures, they need to be, at a minimum, to make their photo + proof of authorship of works of the Artists' Union (the only legitimate at the time). It is unlikely that they consider to take a picture of, well, you know about the Union.

[Hollandup]

t .. is it possible to understand and to refuse to work after all was ? So it was a free choice of artists ? Some people said "no" , the other said "yes "?
( It does not matter )

I personally do not approve. The more talk about it , the less objective history is obtained . Let the court is trying to sort out.

Schedule appointments dating from S. Bugaev and a representative of the London auction a month ago in St. Petersburg , there is something fell through , now it's clear why.