Photos from the rally in support of Andrei Erofeev, and Yuri Samodurov

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

A moment like this, "not me"? I can-Russian action than many of those horugvenostsev when it comes to that.
You'll have all something in one pile not valite.
By the way, Erofeev also be healthy roots. Pradet-Popov, the inventor of radio, for a minute.

To the decision to limit freedoms were legitimate and western (conditionally) the public is not worried, we need the arguments about these: all the Russian with a beard and crosses (photo attached), do not want progress and Freedoms (the text of an appeal, Bey, Thunder is attached), so to avoid what we give them a little freedom pruning, and we'll see. And being here, you, me, others?

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all the Russian with a beard and crosses (photo attached), do not want progress and Freedoms (the text of an appeal, Bey of Thunder "is attached), so in order to avoid what we give them a little freedom pruning, and we'll see.

That undercut some freedom from them, they are worse, she heartily.
Those on the mind of one thing:
Oh if evil stop:
Pick up any book to let burn. (c) [ QUOTE="artcol; 1193801] Well, maybe overdid it at the time, and This time no one wanted inserted? [/QUOTE]
And then! Why should they "dirty".
Y "those" now prosecutors, courts, police.

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And that he then deals with this garbage?

But what he and art-to do? Radio mending?

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It is hard to say what they were statements each of these artists in the individual (it would be absurd to represent them as a kind of total mass, the artist - to identify individuals). But there is that exists independently of the artist is in its creativity. This - the spiritual atmosphere of society, in which he resides, and no-yes-no, but at least one hundred and do not refrain from its reflection, if it is, of course, foresight and sincerity. Artist's ulterior motive is often compared it with the healers, diagnose a society in which they live. I do not justify (and would be in what) and certainly not defending the participants of the exhibition "Forbidden Art". I am far from thinking that the imperative desire of a PR drive for loans in the ratings, and even more so - a desire to offend the feelings of believers (and anyone else's in general). At the core of the exhibition and the priority was the motive which has suffered the study of society through honest trepanation its controversial ins and outs, identification of new meanings that have emerged recently as a result of vzaimodiffuzirovaniya new and old values in a much-changed over the years the society. And their long self-fulfilling phenomenon becomes particularly evident when comparing it artistic character. To see these changes and refleksirovat them - a position for a modern artist frankly weak, unfounded and unjustified.
Of course, quite naturally, in such cases and the reaction of that part of society was not ready to accept the realities visualized. But, in the history of art - it is too long since passed stage. If you recall, for example, the reaction of the French Impressionists at the establishment, some of which even the art critics likened to a piece of rotting meat, or the famous saying of Alexandre Dumas Gustave Courbet: - "From what the monster could happen this bastard by the name of Gustave Courbet? Under any cap on a manure pile, poured with a mixture of wine, beer, poisonous saliva and stinking phlegm, sprang this blower and hairy gourd, the belly, pretending to be a man and artist, is the embodiment of idiotic and impotent "I"? "(Below I have put works by Courbet, an unprecedented annoyed in those years is best known for its frivolous customs of French society, women's genitals in the painting "The Origin of the World" shocked even highly advanced lovers of realistic painting, and painting itself, being written in 1866, became the first open to the public only at the end of the twentieth century, and now she ekcponiruetsya Museum d'Orsay in Paris) - then it becomes obvious that all these precedents are the essence of reflection from the society itself processes. But the underlying processes, and therefore not always understandable and accessible to the superficial glance of a philistine. What an artist of genius, so relentless it to the public. Such is his fate, so his cross. But the artist, that's what an artist that is, perhaps, to his unconscious sometimes unfortunately, in the vanguard. And the attitude towards him at all times been, in general, identical, with some difference. Passed the century, or even less, and most had already left the earthly vale misunderstood outcasts, they are shaded with a light hand descendants became classics. Pushkin - our all. But after the collapse of the Soviet Union - now and Malevich, with an "antihristskim" black square.
Lord, believe me, in Russia, at times, far more interesting than the prosperous West. This country has experienced one of the worst tragedies of Anthropological that began last century with the war against the red white. A century later, echoes similar proitvopostavleny with individual elements of the ideological level viewed until now. Maybe because something is unsatisfactory and more. I understand the genesis of the conflict generated by this exhibition on a common platform. But do not castigate unseemly organizers and artists "Forbidden Art" at the forum, where dwells not there an art community easiest would see hudozhestvennosmyslovuyu are cautious and priventivnymi measures furnished work.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

So pruned some freedom from them, it was worse than a bitter radish.

And so the end does not cut it, and all. It's a long question, state of it is a repressive institution, but need the freedom (and hence the need and possibility of their cut, if someone zarvetsya and therefore always in need of excuses repressions and legitimisation sootv.insrumentary).

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

And that he and art-to do. Radio repair?

Yes waning some, he chose the path of self-realization. Gapon.

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Сообщение от ni_m

Gentlemen, believe me, in Russia, at times, far more interesting than in the prosperous West.

Who is arguing for, sir.
Only:
I gaze at the world from under the table,
The twentieth century - a century of extraordinary.
 Than a century, more interesting for the historian,
But for contemporary sad! (c)

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This is a long question, state of a repressive institution, but also the freedom needed

As lecture notes on the history of the 19 th century, right.

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Сообщение от ni_m

It is difficult to say what they were statements each of these artists in the individual (it would be absurd to represent them as a kind of total mass; artist - to determine the individual). However, there is the fact that it exists independently of the artist in his own work. This - the spiritual atmosphere of society, in which he resides, and no-yes-no, but just one of a hundred and do not refrain from its reflection, if it is, of course, foresight and sincerity. Artist's ulterior motive is often compared it with the healers, diagnose a society in which they live. I do not justify (and would be in what), and especially not defending the participants of the exhibition "Forbidden Art". I am far from thinking that the imperative desire of a PR drive for loans in the ratings, and even more so - a desire to offend the feelings of believers (and anyone else's in general). At the core of the exhibition and the priority was the motive which has suffered the study of society through honest trepanation its controversial ins and outs, identification of new meanings that have emerged recently as a result of vzaimodiffuzirovaniya new and old values in a much-changed over the years the society. And their long self-fulfilling phenomenon becomes particularly evident when comparing it artistic character. To see these changes and not refleksirovat them - a position for a modern artist frankly weak, unfounded and unjustified.
Of course, quite naturally, in such cases and the reaction of that section of society was not ready to accept the realities visualized. But in the history of art - it is too long since passed stage. If you recall, for instance, the reaction of the French Impressionists at the establishment, some of which even art critics likened to a piece of rotting meat, or the famous saying of Alexandre Dumas Gustave Courbet: - "From what the monster could happen this bastard by the name of Gustave Courbet? Under any cap on a manure pile, poured with a mixture of wine, beer, poisonous saliva and stinking phlegm, sprang this blower and hairy gourd, the belly, pretending to be a man and artist, is the embodiment of idiotic and impotent "I"? "(I have attached below works by Courbet, an unprecedented annoyed in those years is best known for its frivolous customs of French society, women's genitals in the painting "The Origin of the World" shocked even highly advanced lovers of realistic painting, and painting itself, being written in 1866, became the first open to the public only at the end of the twentieth century, and now she ekcponiruetsya Museum d'Orsay in Paris) - then it becomes obvious that all these precedents are the essence of reflection from the society itself processes. But the underlying processes, and therefore not always clear and dostupnuh for a cursory look of a philistine. What an artist of genius, so relentless it to the public. Such is his fate, so his cross. But the artist, that's what an artist that is, perhaps, to his unconscious sometimes unfortunately, in the vanguard. And the attitude towards him at all times been, in general, identical, with some difference. Passed the century, or even less, and most had already left the earthly vale misunderstood outcasts, they are shaded with a light hand descendants became classics. Pushkin - our all. But after the collapse of the Soviet Union - now also with his antihristskim Malevich black square.
Gentlemen, believe me, in Russia, at times, far more interesting than the prosperous West. This country has lived through one of the worst tragedies of anthropology, which began in the last century with the war against the red-white. A century later, such otgloski proitvopostavleny with individual elements of the ideological level viewed until now. Maybe because something is unsatisfactory and more. I understand the genesis of the conflict generated by this exhibition on a common platform. But, no unseemly castigate the organizers and artists "Forbidden Art" at the forum, home is not it the art community would be easiest to see hudozhestvennosmyslovuyu are cautious and priventivnymi measures furnished to her work.

Yes, it is this: to restrain himself, slyubitsya.

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Who - like

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Yes waning some, he chose the path of self-realization. Gapon.

So?
He is the candidate of art history.
 In the years 1989-2002. Chief of the latest trends in the Museum-Reserve Tsaritsyno, which gathered a collection of contemporary Russian art, including more than 2000 (!) works.
From 2002 to June 2008 was in charge of contemporary art at the State Tretyakov Gallery, coming in the Tretyakov Gallery with his team and with a collection gathered in the Museum Tsaritsino.
What's "Gapon? I do not understand ...
Incidentally, in the rating of "50 most influential individuals in the Russian Art", compiled by the magazine "Art Chronicle", he won first place.
In sovriske he known character, as written in our tabloid press "cult.

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