Art as a commodity: Paradoxes and patterns

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Pavel

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Sorry it's just called vtyuhat .
Collector or just someone when purchasing certain that buys valuable thing , so it will rise in value. Marketologicheskih the same opinion and here are a few tricks , it is necessary money , and money appear after the sale. The question is , Where? There is no place , that there are no buyers , rather they go on and go buy the artists in workshops. This is smart. Others do so as you wrote fluently and buy from a multilayer painting or something they think orrrrriginalnoe .

Collectors often buy your favorite thing , and not expensive . Moreover , the picture gets accustomed to the exposure so that all impoverished after the removal of the picture.
After the Soviet art products can be sold everywhere, even at gas stations , provided that the artist is legal . For example, pewter casting - vintage avtomobilchiki .
Glib only need to attract a buyer, and the decision to purchase the buyer accepts . Believe that most buyers have a basis for making competent decisions. Working on it and the media, and the market .

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Artoil-A

Collector often buy your favorite thing, and not expensive.

Collector buys valuable thing above all: a collection of whether to exchange or resale ...
Collector just can not like that anyhow ... He sees the value of purchased items.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Seriy

We have the same, and sometimes it is not clear by whom, and what this thing is written?
Who should buy it?

Sometimes, you know, artists create works are not for sale, and even, horror of horrors, they do not sell at all, but to show them to represent the public show.
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[Pavel]

Сообщение от Vladimir Vladimirovich , 2761221 "

Robbed population , put all the funds of museums

Then the museum bought, who did not want to sell, but there was not, contrary gift peredovalas entire collections in museums . It's about this time when the crisis in the crisis and there is no way to sell things available without cheating . There will be the opportunity, will buy , but still only real thing.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Or Pasha Tyryshkin - " a pine forest on the " little ponabirali everywhere, all this hodgepodge hang in the hallway of the Federation Council and be proud of.
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For example hanger.
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[Buscador]

Сообщение от Seriy; 2761241 "

Artists also need to understand that the arts - it's great , but you need to supply to the market a product designed for specific purposes , decorating a home, subject to a popular topic or technique ( as it once appeared fashion to mint ) , the response to trends in the public consciousness , MEMORABILIA -( as well sold M.Monro ) ...

The arts - it's not great and not bad ... They do not deal with, because it will be able to assess only those who see the work. And if the artist wants to " supply the market with goods" , the art there will not even smell . " Love the art in yourself , not yourself in the art ! "

[Seriy]

Buscador, IMHO , the sequence is reversed. Some may be puffed up to death , creating netlenki " pure art " , but in fact , garbage. And some , working on an order for the money to create a certain thing , a certain size and for certain purposes , EM product , do something very worthy of eternity , whether it be a picture on a blank spot above the door in the dining room ( "The Last Supper " by Leonardo ) or tomb dads hands Mikelanzhdelo . Again, remember Van Gogh 's paintings " for decorating homes of the middle class ." Either you know how to do something, or do not know how . And the high-flown words about ART - usually a sign of sad sack . A product is a form of submission , no more than that of the frame.
And the theme topic , about the market and sell a product , not a hobby - who is there at your leisure draw or embroider a cross.
Damien Hirst how many paintings with butterfly glued on the monochrome canvas did ( or rather , supervised ) ? and sold at an auction. That's it! I do not remember how many, but hundreds accurately.
This man knows what the market is and what art as a commodity.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Seriy; 2761441 "

Again, remember Van Gogh 's paintings " to decorate the homes of the middle class ".

Van Gogh did not do anything for spetsialno " middle class ", this life is so turned around and he turned his life that he was in the class had to rotate.
He would gladly have not lived in the remote town of Montmartre and would not communicate with Agostino in " Tabor " if he had money .

[Artoil-A]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Van Gogh did not do anything for spetsialno " to decorate the homes of the middle class ", this life is so turned around and he turned his life that he was in the class had to rotate .
He would love to have no contact with that class would not be living not in a provincial Montmartre and would not communicate with Agostino in " Tabor " if he had the money .

The artist has to be isolated from hronofagov from artists quacks . Caruso said (he was a singer, very popular) , that one life to learn to sing, yet alone sing. Similarly, about painting.
Third-party discussion only mask what is happening in the arts. I added , would that we should spend life in order to understand the bluff that surrounds any business ...
At the heart of art - a craft capable of whom were taught to learn this ...

[Кирилл Сызранский]

What was that ? ( c) < ! - ~ 7 ~ ->

[Peter]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

He would love to have no contact with that class would not be living not in a provincial Montmartre and would not communicate with Agostino in " Tabor " if he had the money .

If he had the money ( or even more less) , the Van Gogh would still painted his paintings , only because he was an artist at heart , at its heart .. not a " small shopkeeper ." FE van Gogh .