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Старый 29.04.2010, 09:43 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1411
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Museums" hooked "on gifts in the 90's, in my opinion, when the budget was not there. Agreed to do this exhibition - are ready to work. Do you want-not want, it does not matter.
And you would prefer to pay the rent? In my opinion, the artists are also very good "addicted" to pay for all the work, and not really want to change that.



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And you would prefer to pay the rent? In my opinion, the artists are also very good "addicted" to pay for all the work, and not really want to change that.
So I do not think so .. Portfolio Portfolio strife! Some "organzatsii" simply choosing not leave ... Money does not want to (Russian)



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Старый 29.04.2010, 10:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1413
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... Money does not want to (Russian)
And you who offered?

Or, perhaps, little do we offer?



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Старый 29.04.2010, 12:00 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1414
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And you would prefer to pay the rent?
Maybe I'm from the moon, but it seems to me - what have the lease to the Museum? The Museum is interested in good exhibitions, collecting information, applications, reviews, consents /refuses. On-the idea itself and invite artists could in some projects. And work, in my opinion, much more adequate for "Museum" to buy, making a good choice - and funds to replenish, and to support the artist. But gifts are rarely thought to enter at some point in the history of art (not from harm and greed, and the commercialization of life) - will give or copy, or least udavshuyusya work. But in the sphere of culture, especially fine art (which, in terms of benefit to the State gos.struktur 0) - "no money" (or at all not enough <!--~ a ~-->), so long as natural exchange
I am not aware, maybe it's all over the world so . I thought that voluntarily. If someone knows, it is interesting - share information.
 Vladimir Chernomashentsev which directory? This is a rarity. Even the thought will not think that the museum is something besides a poster will be printed. However, our famous galleries of the National Library has printed catalogs to collective exhibitions, you can buy. Just do not believe it, but fakt.Rastem.



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Старый 29.04.2010, 13:04 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1415
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Vladimir Chernomashentsev which directory? This is a rarity. Even the thought will not think that the museum is something besides a poster will be printed. However, our famous galleries of the National Library has printed catalogs to collective exhibitions, you can buy. Just do not believe it, but fakt.Rastem.
If we take into account the good museums or galleries advanced, they printed catalogs. And very worthy. I do not know, do you remember that I'm fond of and collecting modern books: rare gift books and art albums. Since last year's book exhibition at the Exhibition Centre in September, I brought more than 140 kg. art albums. Basically I am encouraged by publishing the Russian Museum. They have a huge range of excellent, even rare for Russian authors: Yavlensky, Lanskoy (200 rubles. ") Etc. etc. And the prices are ridiculous, for example, catalog Aron Buch is retail 400 rub., Whereas in the shops and galleries are estimated at least 1000.
There are other curious publishing, I already wrote about it. I can not afford to buy books in the stores. Too much. Luxury a thick folder of AES + F ed in ve-RM is 900 rubles., While in Biblioglobus 2800.
In short, there are directories. And they are often more interesting thin. album for the people. More useful and rare information. I try to buy all that went out the volume catalog of our finest museums.



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Старый 29.04.2010, 17:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1416
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http://www.nreferat.ru/referat/hudoz...ire-artbiznesa
The text of the abstract artist in the world of art business
Federal Agency for Education Novosibirsk State University of Economics and Management Department of Philosophy The discipline: World Culture and Art
Contents:
1. Introduction ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... March
2. Most:
2.1 Artist: Who is he ?............................................ ....................... ....... 4
2.2 Art business as a combination of factors ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 5
2.3 Interaction of artists and art-business ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 6
3. Conclusion ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... 7

The artist in the world of art business.
Introduction.
In this paper, I would like to review a selected problem in several aspects. That is indeed a problem, I think many will agree. As the current economic situation, business in principle - it is very delicate. As it is an art business, it's even more cruel world. I would like to approach this issue from different sides. I will try as much as possible to cover this topic extensively. The work will consist of several parts:
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In my opinion, these three components will help to make the right conclusions on a given topic.
Bulk.
            Artist: Who is he? In this section, I would not want to go to the history and mention the great creators. On the contrary, you should decide that in the modern sense means "artist". In the narrow sense of the word, this man engaged in painting, graphic art, in general, all that is subsequently referred to the pictures. In my opinion, humanity has moved away from just such a definition, and now an artist called all those involved in some type of creativity. Of course, this does not contradict the notions of culture of creativity, but also introduces some shortcomings. For example, the fact that fall under this definition and those who engage in pseudo-creativity. Or otherwise: the mass promotion of a product with an indispensable financial benefit for themselves. In my work I will use the term "artist" as a collection of images of contemporary art. It consists of several criteria: First, these are people who are engaged in any creative work, without binding to a specific division. This could be how artists in the classical sense, as well as directors, composers, designers, and even those who brings a sense of style and culture in areas not related to the art.
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In my opinion, also in this category include advertising. We have identified a range of persons who will be meant by "Artist". But as has been said not all fit under it. The second, employed in a designated area people need to bring a cultural contribution to razvitienatsii and the country as a whole. By doing this in addition to economic benefits. For example, as developed in our country, "pop" as an artistic layer I take I will not, because here the main factor is the personal well-being. Of course, there are exceptions, as in any other case. A contemporary, you can specify it this way Sergei Zverev, the world-renowned stylist who is not for the country stood up to the world competitions, but nevertheless, thanks to him, Russia is considered a very "stylish" country. So, summing up can be defined, which will further understanding of the work. The artist is a person who is engaged in any kind of creativity (in the broadest sense) and thus contributes to the development of art. Further, when referring to "Artist", will mean just that notion. 2.2 Art business as a set of factors. The notion of business as such - a very difficult task. By virtue of the fact that there is no clear definition. There are different opinions on this subject, but one not. In this paper I will consider this a separate business structure in several ways:
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I believe that these aspects are better than others will show the specifics of this type of business. The ethical dimension. This factor, in my view, bear the greatest load of meaning, as the ethical principles in business are very important. Many, in turn, argued that ethics as such, in this environment are non-existent. In my opinion, this is not so. The business world is certainly very cruel and does not tolerate weak character. As it is the medium of art, then there is no difference, except in exceptional interpersonal relationships. They largely determine the nature of future work plans. Economic dimension. This section is the most business volume in terms of spending on his effort and time. Depending on whether the artist is successful in financial terms, it can take, but can not accept. For example, in our country very widespread opinion that: if the artist is satisfied, then it is not a creator. Unfortunately, our mentality is the only way implies a true genius - the poor. It is therefore not in any other business does not play a huge role, as far as you are not rich in order to be truly relevant. The cultural aspect. This section is addressed to the understanding of how valuable a culturally merits of a particular artist (much of this depends on the financial side and the case). There still will need to apply a bit of history. Many creators recognized after their death. In modern art has its own genius, which during his lifetime have proved to be called works of art of their work. Of course, the question remains: on what principles are selected in this category. We will not touch him because he is not quite appropriate in
 
nation and the country as a whole. By doing this in addition to economic benefits. For example, as developed in our country, "pop" as an artistic layer I take I will not, because here the main factor is the personal well-being. Of course, there are exceptions, as in any other case. Of his contemporaries, can be a case in point Sergei Zverev, world-renowned stylist who is not advocated for the country in the world competitions, but nevertheless, thanks to him, Russia is considered a very "stylish" country. So, summing up, can be defined, which will further understanding of the work. The artist is a person who is engaged in any kind of creativity (in the broadest sense) and thus contributes to the development of art. Further, when referring to "Artist", will mean just that notion. 2.2 Art business as a set of factors. The notion of business as such - a very difficult task. Due to the fact that there is no clear definition. There are different opinions on this subject, but one not. In this paper I will consider this a separate business structure in several ways:
...
I believe that these aspects are better than others will show the specifics of this type of business. The ethical dimension. This factor, in my view, bear the greatest load of meaning, as the ethical principles in business are very important. Many, in turn, argue that ethics as such, in this environment are non-existent. In my opinion, this is not so. The business world is certainly very cruel and does not tolerate weak character. As is the medium of art, then there is no difference, except in exceptional interpersonal relationships. They largely determine the nature of future work plans. Economic dimension. This section of most business volume in terms of spending on him time and energy. Depending on how successful an artist is in financial terms, he may accept, or may not accept. For example, in our country very widespread opinion that: if the artist is satisfied, then it is not a creator. Unfortunately our mentality is the only way imply a true genius - the poor. It is therefore not in any other business does not play a huge role, as far as you are not rich in order to be truly relevant. The cultural aspect. This section is addressed to the understanding of how valuable a culturally merits of a particular artist (in many respects from that and depends the financial side of things). There still have to apply a bit of history. Many creators recognized after their death. In modern art has its own genius, which during his lifetime have proved to be called works of art of their work. Of course, the question remains: on what principles are selected in this category. We will not touch him, because he is not quite appropriate in
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Having looked closely enough theme, I noticed that the question of giving an artist known for (do not want to apply to art, the word "promotion") is considered mainly from two sides:

At issue in the first place are active artists, which is quite natural - high popularity guarantees both material and moral satisfaction from their work.
Second, actively promoting art dealers, gallery staff and thin. salons. They are also interested in fame and high prices of works sold by the artist.

Periodically, the two groups accuse each other of not understanding the laws of the market, poor performance, not necessarily, etc. etc. I look the part and accept the first one, then the other side, depending on the strength of concrete arguments and examples. Also, depending on their own experience of working as one, and with the other party. A very mixed experience. You see the truth then here and there.

In this dispute respected hand forget about me - a simple Russian collector. Or about the sensitive Ukrainian collector. Consider the art market in its fullness, for this we represent it in the form of triangle: "artist-collector-seller. Who is more important, what was first: the chicken or the egg?

There is an interesting gambit: an attempt to throw out that triangle artist completely destroys this figure. When we remove the Collector (the buyer), the triangle can be transformed into a simpler, but under certain conditions, self-contained figure. Call it, say, range. At such a figure was like the artistic process in the USSR, when the art market is almost non-existent. He painted, public museums and galleries showing, and the people watching. You remember about the Buyer with a capital letter - Hudfond? Granted, this is a big dream of the artist, but the art market it still will not name.

Now remove the triangle side seller - and the figure again is not dead, turned back into something like a circle. Or oval and, depending on which side is more chip away "blanket". Not fatal to the figures, but the market is shrinking dramatically, significantly limiting the opportunity for Buyer to meet new artists. Will suffer and artists, as is likely to be opportunities to raise prices solely through advertising and marketing, not talent. Perhaps this is the best.

Summary. Speaking on the topic, folks, do not forget to discuss not only their own interests, but keep in mind the interests of "Collector". Claims by a collector you may also be done.



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Старый 30.04.2010, 20:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1418
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Another appeared "collector ".
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In this dispute respected hand forget about me - a simple Russian collector.
And who am I? Work small.
Family good man,
Family good man.
I live like you, to the missile century.
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Speaking on the topic, folks, do not forget to discuss not only their own interests, but keep in mind the interests of" Collector ".
And without me, without me
Then nothing would have stood.
Then nothing would have stood,
When it had not been me.
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Consider the art market in the fullness
Beautiful!




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Старый 30.04.2010, 21:11 Язык оригинала: Русский       #1419
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I have three possible answers to a completely muddled message to the COP. It is not yet decided which to choose:

1) politely inform you that from my text, the primary element on the art market is an artist. Then send roughly learn to read.

2) Immediately send rude, saying something like this: "Without you, my dear, we somehow get along with the artist."

3) Do not pay attention to the great and terrible COP, the most important Guru on the forum. Not the first time it shows a lack of own ideas and words. Ideas not for penny sloshnye quotes, hauled to the site and not to the point of the network.

In principle, using the right old opoponenta COP, I can choose any option.
What can we do? What about choice? Idea! Trust me answer choice of the Administration. As they say, so be it.




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Another came "collector".
Thank God that was less appear fake art dealers, art historians and self-taught psevdoantikvarov. And who can masterfully use by Google in search of unnecessary quotations, fluent in the language (not foreign and not very literate) and having Munchausen's imagination, too, particularly not risen. One was ...

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Beautiful!
Jealous?



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