How to unleash the artist

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Сообщение от Buscador

only collaboration with the gallery will allow you to fix the market value of your work.

What is it?
How to "fix the market value"?
I know how to do it through an auction, for example, and all.
And that gives me some kind of average price for "oil up to a meter in some kind of gallery, I'm cheaper than I can take dealerships this author" oil from the meter, and all know about it.
Where is it, gallery-fixed price? Where is it recorded? At the cash receipt? In the product made payable to the hand of the seller? Where?

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Сообщение от Pavel

Auctions far nobody decree.

Auction records-only landmark in the prices of artrynke, only!
All of your vaunted Acuna Meira auction records were taken from information. Now, with the advent of Internet resources, in print, these consolidated nepripodemnye bricks in FIG nobody needs, opened the laptop anywhere and see (if signed, this information is almost always paid) their prices by this or that.

[Konstantin]

Buscador gives the example of a site of any U.S. galleries. And he says that the price fixed by its presence. At our sites contemporary artists and galleries, you will not find prices next to the pictures. And the rights of Cyril Syzranskiy when he says that the Public fixing prices except at auctions not.

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Сообщение от Konstantin

and human Cyril Syzranskiy when he says that the Public fixing prices except at auctions not.

So I just a thousand times repeated the obvious law of the art market.
There is no other mechanism for fixing prices except as an auction record.
They are, by the way and built indicators ARTinvestmenta.
Do not fool razrobatyvali, too many people poopytneee, so all and refer to these indices.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

So I'm just a thousand times repeated the obvious law of the art market.
There is no other mechanism for fixing prices except as an auction record.
They are, by the way and built indicators ARTinvestmenta.
No fools developed, so many more experienced people, so all and refer to these indices.

Only need to specify-domestic auctions, with verifiable basis. This is a market that is not available and on otsutvii which everyone complains.
Akun and Meyer is an analysis of auction results. They are issued each year is because the prices are all subject to disruptions. Over time, this ranks the artists and the price of which is available for the artist. Therefore, Acuna reference book dealer and collector.

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Сообщение от Pavel

only have to specify-home auctions

This is why "domestic"?
I'm all over the world can see the results of auctions.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

And that gives me some kind of average price for "oil up to a meter in some kind of gallery, I'm cheaper than I can take dealerships this author" oil from the meter, and everyone knew it , the price of the gallery is just the price of prompting the real price in the market, all take this price is cheaper than that of the times.

Cyril! Please read what I wrote. I do not know what you give cooperation with the gallery, but merely clarified that the gallery is formed by the market price. You've once again turned all wrote about the same, only your interpretation ...
And the result:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

What is it? How to "fix the fair market value"?

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

price of the gallery is just the price prompting the real price in the market

That talk ....

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

So I just a thousand times repeated the obvious law of the art market.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

There is no other mechanism for fixing prices except as an auction record.

So how prices are formed by artists who have not passed through the auction sale?

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Why not "domestic"?
I'm all over the world can see the results of auctions.

Because the market is native artists must be in our country.
And then let the crooks are operating.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Right, I wrote.

Who would doubt

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Price Gallery, for example, 10 is long. And I understand that the actual purchase of 5. That landmark.
And now my sales price picture is needed. Tknesh to her client: "Look here at a price, and I size and more and more interesting year. And I take away from the hundreds, all selective, fat ... And there, the remnants, but not sweet ..."

But this argument is not a civilized market, as the "Oriental Bazaar". I understand what you practice, but I wrote about something else. In developed markets such as you will not, because all the best artists will work with the best galleries on the contract. Actually, as I understand, from the very beginning of this conversation was going on, rather than "clandestine kupiprodaystve" from which the artists, too tired (good artists). After all, with your approach, it does not go on popularity of artist, but only makes about your interest ...

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Price Gallery, for example, 10 is long. And I understand that actually buy a 5

When an artist works with the gallery, then either he does not let you into the shop, or sell the work, only 10 per cent cheaper (here depends on the system arrangement with the gallery).

[Yurko]

Relatively galleries and the average purchasing works of any artist, let me give utterance Mayakovsky VV :
"... Esthetes scream about freedom of creativity!" Every child in Paris, knows that no one will come out for glory, if it starts to do this or that merchant. This trader is omnipotent ... These merchants make the glory of the artists. They're scheduled to genius bought his paintings for a pittance, they accumulate in their basements, and after the death of a thousand in the service of the reviewers rastrublivayut glory dead and many hundreds of thousands of francs were sold masterpieces ... every visitor to the lady, pokravitelnitse arts, each prishednemu collector staraetsya at best illumination, with the best recommendations, with the transfer of the best reviews to show some very dubious picture ... " and on the Moscow auto-training in my opinion special .. like Repin: ".. The artist may be the only one who has a 99%tolerance and 1%talent ..." Dumaetsya, gentlemen, to present modern art is characterized by the search for new expressive means, the expansion of creative techniques ...
... And business promotion on a kind of principle of Direct sail came, I saw, I conquered ... But I am concerned about the question: What is the best prodovat watercolor, graphics .. .. how to determine the cost of what principles of promotion take (from the show .. to sales ) .. may be <!--~ ~--><!--~ 1 1 ~ -> artist of extraordinary wear, ride on the old avtomobilene decorated in the most sexual revelations. ..? I express my gratitude to you all ...)

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

I bought at one price, sell like this. Someone who bought a work by this author more-that way, the gallery sets the price of a third man in the street with a picture of the author, who gave it to someone 20 years ago, brought to auction, with the fourth, etc.

It's not a systemic approach, and therefore can not form the price. A systematic approach - it takes when a gallery artist and engaged them for a certain period of time: making the exhibition, the press, directories ... prices and possibly auctions. And the artist gets through this period quite a different price, which has already taken the market.