How to unleash the artist

[Buscador]

Сообщение от noart

And if we are talking about ordering this situation here - then they can rely Russian artists? at which institution the costs if they do not have an exclusive with any respectable western galleries? Consequently, sales are going to fluctuate quite a large price range.
We talk about the level and the level involves relations within the law, as in the West

I think that you are a little zapupalis in the representation of the market ... If you are talking about the internal (Russian) market, it is not worth it compared to the West. It must be formed independently, without relying to any sale in the "west". Each market is formed by its own laws. And if you are lucky and you have sold in the United States 2-3 for their work N-tion price, so it does not affect the price of Russian. If you want to sell in Russia and to form the price for their work, the only collaboration with the gallery will allow you to fix the market value of your work. A further increase in prices will depend on the quality of work and skilful management of the gallery ... Otherwise, you might blame on all the time ... "bad dancers. After all, for the formation of the market required all components: the artist, gallery, auction, TV, newspapers ... (healthy co-operation).
P.S. But the high sales of somewhere in the west at the beginning of cooperation "here" is better to talk with humor and just as an interesting information. And remember, dear artists that are shaping the price is not you, and the market, which "make" good faith galereisty ...

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Сообщение от Pavel

It should be an increase in collectors and fans

By demographic effort ...

Сообщение от Pavel

independent, public auction, which would set and regulate prices.

And that, he (this one) will adjust prices at all ... 15000 artists.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Buscador

I think you are a little zapupalis in the representation of the market ... If you are talking about the internal (Russian) market, it is not worth it compared to the West. It must be formed independently, without relying to any sale in the "west". Each market is formed by its own laws. And if you are lucky and you have sold in the United States 2-3 for their work N-tion price, so it does not affect the price of Russian. If you want to sell in Russia and to form the price for their work, the only collaboration with the gallery will allow you to fix the market value of your work. A further increase in prices will depend on the quality of work and skilful management of the gallery ... Otherwise, you might blame on all the time ... "bad dancers. After all, for the formation of the market required all components: the artist, gallery, auction, TV, newspapers ... (healthy co-operation).
P.S. But the high sales of somewhere in the west at the beginning of cooperation "here" is better to talk with humor and just as an interesting information. And remember, dear artists that are shaping the price is not you, and the market, which "make" good faith galereisty ...

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By demographic effort ...

And that, he (this one) will adjust prices at all ... 15000 artists.

This is already happening with the "9 th century in France and around the world now. You see the constant references to Sotheby's and Christie's, not to mention other

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Сообщение от Konstantin

I already told you that these allegations will be clean. Concrete examples of names and dates, including such details as - how many people and to what numbers were traded.


Pavel are your spells more and more like the way the store konyuchit child: - Mom buy a toy, mom buy a toy ...

You yourself refer to auctions are not our .<!--~ 10 "->

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Сообщение от noart

I have given names only, in random order and did not attempt to withdraw the rating.

They, and no rating, because there is no basis.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Pavel

You see the constant references to Sotheby's and Christie

And those others that are not sold at these auctions do not have established prices? Go to any American galleries, where the mass of artists with the price of their work from 8 to 30 thousand, but not sold at auction.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Buscador

only collaboration with the gallery will allow you to fix the market value of your work.

What is it?
How to "fix the market value"?
I know how to do it through an auction, for example, and all.
And that gives me some kind of average price for "oil up to a meter in some kind of gallery, I'm cheaper than I can take dealerships this author" oil from the meter, and all know about it.
Where is it, gallery-fixed price? Where is it recorded? At the cash receipt? In the product made payable to the hand of the seller? Where?

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Сообщение от Pavel

Auctions far nobody decree.

Auction records-only landmark in the prices of artrynke, only!
All of your vaunted Acuna Meira auction records were taken from information. Now, with the advent of Internet resources, in print, these consolidated nepripodemnye bricks in FIG nobody needs, opened the laptop anywhere and see (if signed, this information is almost always paid) their prices by this or that.

[Konstantin]

Buscador gives the example of a site of any U.S. galleries. And he says that the price fixed by its presence. At our sites contemporary artists and galleries, you will not find prices next to the pictures. And the rights of Cyril Syzranskiy when he says that the Public fixing prices except at auctions not.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Konstantin

and human Cyril Syzranskiy when he says that the Public fixing prices except at auctions not.

So I just a thousand times repeated the obvious law of the art market.
There is no other mechanism for fixing prices except as an auction record.
They are, by the way and built indicators ARTinvestmenta.
Do not fool razrobatyvali, too many people poopytneee, so all and refer to these indices.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

So I'm just a thousand times repeated the obvious law of the art market.
There is no other mechanism for fixing prices except as an auction record.
They are, by the way and built indicators ARTinvestmenta.
No fools developed, so many more experienced people, so all and refer to these indices.

Only need to specify-domestic auctions, with verifiable basis. This is a market that is not available and on otsutvii which everyone complains.
Akun and Meyer is an analysis of auction results. They are issued each year is because the prices are all subject to disruptions. Over time, this ranks the artists and the price of which is available for the artist. Therefore, Acuna reference book dealer and collector.

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Сообщение от Pavel

only have to specify-home auctions

This is why "domestic"?
I'm all over the world can see the results of auctions.

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Why not "domestic"?
I'm all over the world can see the results of auctions.

Because the market is native artists must be in our country.
And then let the crooks are operating.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

And that gives me some kind of average price for "oil up to a meter in some kind of gallery, I'm cheaper than I can take dealerships this author" oil from the meter, and everyone knew it , the price of the gallery is just the price of prompting the real price in the market, all take this price is cheaper than that of the times.

Cyril! Please read what I wrote. I do not know what you give cooperation with the gallery, but merely clarified that the gallery is formed by the market price. You've once again turned all wrote about the same, only your interpretation ...
And the result:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

What is it? How to "fix the fair market value"?

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

price of the gallery is just the price prompting the real price in the market

That talk ....

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

So I just a thousand times repeated the obvious law of the art market.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

There is no other mechanism for fixing prices except as an auction record.

So how prices are formed by artists who have not passed through the auction sale?