On human decency!

[Toma71]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

A calling for the "02", will not come?
For example, I predpalagayu that I moshennecheskim way they want to deceive, to seize my property. The crime has not yet committed, perhaps, the police can prevent it. Do not come? <!--~ A ~-->

Comments to the Code of Administrative Offences - under. edited by YM Kozlova
Article 19.13. Knowingly false call of specialized services


2. The objective side is expressed in an illegal act - false, ie deliberately presented as valid, call the fire brigade, police, ambulance or other special services. Such actions violate the normal operating procedure for intelligence activities that may lead to violations of civil rights, denial of their legitimate interests.

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Сообщение от Toma71

I really did not read the Criminal Code of Ukraine, I was somehow more interested in other commercial partnership with Ukrainian businessmen.
However, you should note that among the RSFSR Criminal Code and the Criminal Code (as they say in Odessa), two big differences. Not to mention the CPC and the CPC.
And the Constitution here in Russia has changed somewhat since the Soviet era. On the backbone, as you say.

Speeches on the Constitution of these countries and the civil codes небыло. Do not take offense.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

A calling for the "02", will not come?
For example, I predpalagayu that I moshennecheskim way they want to deceive, to seize my property. The crime has not yet committed, perhaps, the police can prevent it. Do not come? <!--~ A ~-->

Dear Cyril Syzranskiy!
I have to disappoint you. With a call to "02" is unlikely to come, but offered to come and write a statement. Underneath you subscribe (mandatory) that you know what the liability under st.306 Criminal Code (false accusation).
The burden of proof of intent to commit fraud will lie to you. Do not prove - aroused against you on st.306 the Criminal Code in order st.148 Part 2 of the Code.
I therefore once again urge everyone not to speak or write too much (the word "fraud" - in particular) that is not turned against yourself.

[Toma71]

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Сообщение от Toma71

I really did not read the Criminal Code of Ukraine.
However, you should note that among the RSFSR Criminal Code and the Criminal Code (as they say in Odessa), two big differences. Not to mention the CPC and the CPC.
And the Constitution here in Russia has changed somewhat since the Soviet era. On the backbone, as you say.

Initiation of criminal proceedings of public prosecution (st.147 CCP)

1. Only with the reasons and grounds set out in article 140 of the Code, an inquiry body, investigator or investigator with the consent of the prosecutor and the prosecutor within the competence established by the Code of Criminal Procedure, criminal case, what will make an appropriate decision.
         In accordance with Articles 94 and 98 of the Criminal Procedural Code of Ukraine (hereinafter - CCP), criminal proceedings may be instituted only in cases where there are sufficient data to indicate the presence of a crime. In this case, make an appropriate decision prosecutor, investigator, body of inquiry or a judge.

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Сообщение от Toma71

Deliberately false call specialized services

Toe is "patently false". This is when I call on non-existent murder, for example.
And I wrote:

Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

I, for example, predpalagayu that I moshennecheskim way they want to deceive, to seize my property. The crime has not yet committed, perhaps, the police can prevent it.

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[QUOTE=Toma71;1142132] Comments to the Code of Administrative Offences - under. edited by YM Kozlova
Article 19.13. Knowingly false call of specialized services


2. The objective side is expressed in an illegal act - false, ie deliberately presented as valid, call the fire brigade, police, ambulance or other special services. Such actions violate the normal operating procedure for intelligence activities that may lead to violations of civil rights, denial of their legitimate interests.

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Сообщение от curious

Speeches on the Constitution of these countries and the civil codes небыло. Do not take offense.

First, the legislation must comply with the RF Constitution, and not vice versa.
Secondly, I can not imagine myself in the role of the offended.
Thirdly, do not drag in here Code of Administrative Offences. Inappropriate.

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Сообщение от inquisitive

With the call to" 02 "is unlikely to come, but offered to come and write a statement.

On call of noise from the neighbors come. Music plays a very loud at night, for example.

Of course, I live in Tmutarakan, but really you are just telling me some things are funny, just like some kind of guest workers or primary school students.
 Come, will not come ...
Expected to come like a lamb!

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Toma71,
So bummed my idea of the presence in a particular case K. Syzran sufficient evidence of commission of the crime (the event, composition, intent).
Assuming that you go in sophistry, I propose to finish the comparison of legislations of Russia and Ukraine, as K. Syzranskiy located on the territory of Russia.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

The call of noise from the neighbors come. Music plays a very loud at night, for example.

Of course, I live in Tmutarakan, but really you are just telling me some things are funny, just like some kind of guest workers or primary school students.
 Come, will not come ...
Expected to come like a lamb!

Dear Cyril Syzranskiy!
I have about 18 years working with the regions. In one region, I have not only business, but also the apartment where I lived almost constantly for 6 years.
In Moscow - would come, but it does not excite. There - do not come. Ubediolsya than once. In your case - especially since the crime (with your words) have not yet committed.
I have it all here already passed. Even after calls to Nurgaliyev, Putin and Medvedev, criminal cases a crime is not excited.
I am in no way think you either guest workers or primary school students. I'm just warn you and reading the topic of errors caused by cine perception of police, prosecutors and the court. What is not irrelevant to the realities of life in the province.
Unfortunately.

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Сообщение от LCR

Ladies and gentlemen,

In this subject is discussed very specific situation - the daughter of the artist Alferov Nasty problem with the gallery, which worked for her father.

It seems to me in this thread should be limited to that specifically can help Naste resolve the problem, to ascertain the same relationship between forumistami can open a new subject, or to continue one of the many spreading branches already open - in fact all it was: and the benefits /dangers of "titles , and boorishness of worthlessness and gurus, and on organitsazii forum ...

When two years ago, I started to write on this forum, I was dubbed the newcomer. And nothing, not dead. It was gurushkoy - what do I write a lot - and also do not feel worse. Tomorrow will cancel the titles - I think, and survive it. So do not lose your sense of proportions, dear!

First, Anastasia Alferova need help, not to discuss.
Secondly, the discussion of these topics you did not change the situation. No, and unfortunately.
Third, rudeness to his possible osech, but in order that this does not affect the other - to change the model of each povedenchekskuyu forumchanina by administrative measures. To do this, and raised the discussion.
Fourth, from the rudeness die rarely. But there is a smell of sewage. Some people get used to it, others - no. Individual perception - what can you do?
Fifth, on the sense of proportions. One spoonful of tar in a position to spoil the whole barrel of honey.
I think so.

[luka77]

curious, by God, why raise questions to the topic are irrelevant? You hurt that somebody Nakhamu you or even know anyone, but, honestly do not understand why you are writing about this a few times and even more so without specific examples? And here statuses and other titles? Everything went through this, but anyone interested in forums, chats and need information, they are contrary to what you write. People here are adults and understand that the term "Guru" or "Beginner" did not mean. Look, for example, in the section about China, Japan and Egypt, the real academicians, professionals, participate in the forum in the status of "user" or "newbie", but that does not stop treating them as a real Guru.
I, like other members of the forum, I respect your opinions and suggestions regarding that "dirt", which is lacking in the lives of everyone, especially as we have seen in recent Nastya Alferov. It is better to really help unless a specific case, at least advice, which can cost dear.
There is a presumption of innocence, and no one is guilty until the court determines, and no one is obliged to prove his innocence, the burden lies on the law-enforcers (even when there were obvious signs of a crime according to some articles of the Criminal Code , and recall or compare with the Criminal Code of the RSFSR or no sense).
You can call the police and (must arrive by law, any other alternative they have not), it is possible for me to turn to the district, county, city police department (must approve an application for consideration, the worst they can do - send the complainant in the police department for the territory), but better write directly to the prosecutor, as all further actions of the police will be under the direct supervision of the prosecution.
And what we are talking about it, is already good. Nastia could lose $ 2000, and they, I assure you, much more, and restore the lost will be very difficult. There are concrete facts, documents, witnesses, who are and will be on the side of the Artist. And the statute of limitations does not fear, if there are sufficient grounds for the limitation period may be restored. All (without exception) to understand on whose side the truth, and if the case ended in favor of speculators due to criminal indifference or aspiring to be immoral corruption (in the form of refusal to institute proceedings or other passive response), in any case they lose, because reputation is vitally important in this business, and the damage will be significant.
Nobody wants to sue, it would be better if someone from this gallery or read their environment and ashamed, and returned the money ...

[Grigory]

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[Pecheneg]

Сообщение от luka77

but it is better to write directly to the prosecutor

I have written repeatedly about this and do not want to repeat again ...
But no matter how much we do not advise what to do if Nastya not go and will not give a statement, then all our advice, but just talk ...