Genre painting, where she disappeared?

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Сообщение от IV; 2590091"

mikhael, you forgive, but I, for example, illustrated the works you somehow did not show up. Things like that are stuffed with all the shops along the well-trodden tourist paths EU.

With hardly believe it, but if so, then with the European Union is not lost <! - ~ 1 ~ -> But seriously, yes, these pictures can not really relate to the rank of masterpieces. But it's a normal painting. This is not kitsch. Not pretentious. This is an honest living painting. And well, like, sold for prices, I think, somewhat higher than "street". (Here for example [/URL]).

Thank you very much for the article. Very interesting article. Interesting including the fact that it clearly formulated certain "dogma", which are now in dispute "polite society" is considered almost bad manners. But first of all I must say that in many ways I agree with this article. Indeed subject of the picture in any case should not "rise" above the painting. Any painting with any story, even the most "powerful", will turn into nothing if painting a picture mediocre. Examples abound.

Now do not agree with anything, I will not "dismantle" all nobody needs it, just focus on the main thesis ...

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«the artist is only important to the story of painting: it he expresses his creative will». I think there were many artists, mostly old masters, for which the "subject of the picture" was not less important than the "beautiful story" (hence their art does not become less strong!). For example (the first thing that came to mind), it would be strange to think that the stories in the series of etchings "Los Caprichos" had special meaning for Goya ...

«The plot is applied only to those who are not able to perceive the emotional painting." This is not true. It is possible to understand the art and at the same time be inspired by the story of the picture. One more, at least not interfere. "Noon" Petrov-Vodkin is such a case: a picture of shocking us with his painting, ie "Beautiful story", but I personally can not be separated from him "story pictures" - pictured in her life (and death) is just one organic whole. I have absolutely no idea how to "story pictures" may be the case, according to Signac, "spoofed" without painting has lost its force. The same applies to most of the great "story" pictures - the story and painting them inseparable as yin and yang.

«The artist should not touch the viewer's plot, and the harmony of line and color, which he has the right to order him». This is again a very one-sided judgment. Is it, for example, "The refusal of confession" Repin touched us especially the harmony of lines and colors? We admire the color, elegance of composition? .. It is unlikely, almost monochrome painting, the composition is good because it makes it easier to convey the action. Affects us very "scene": a turn of the head, eyes, face convict, then, as he pulled away from the baggy ass figures. We see the rejection of the confession, we see the drama, the tension of the moment, and that's on us and influences.

Of course in the story of painting created a huge number of weak and frankly mediocre paintings. They can always be brought up as an example - say, admire, that he is your "genre" ... But it is necessary to judge the best designs. It would be foolish to bet on one level snug-Postcard scenes in the spirit of Charles Barber and painting ter Borch, the semi-official "cloth" social. realists and works Surikov. That also is good story and generally realism, that it mediocrity and immediately discernible talent. But in the plotless (pointless) painting with this situation somehow, to put it mildly, strange ... So much so, that in the paintings of Pierre Brasseur in 1964, critics have seen almost masterpieces, when in fact it was the work of a chimpanzee named Peter. (It is fair to say that one critic did guessed that "only a monkey could do it", I wonder who that was.) In 2005, the story virtually repeated itself: the director of the State Museum of Art (!) In Moritzburg Katja Schneider took creativity chimp named Bangui for a painting by Ernst Wilhelm Neya. I think Signac would be pleased. "The interest in the story has dried up," and today is not only the workers are able to "experience the excitement and joy of painting as such," but even the great apes. Hurrah! .. (However, in the case of the workers are still in doubt, it's the monkeys in the zoo have nothing to do with them and scientists are busy, and the workers 'hard work' and 'lack of education' cause they are still "prefer a plot.")

Last ... One can argue that there are important at the Mona Lisa (on "Mona Lisa") - a smile, a nose or a "harmony of lines and colors" and how we should "sandwich right there." There is no doubt but what do we see a woman and she still smiles. The main thing to "plot" or "harmony" in the paintings of Velázquez, Rubens, Rembrandt, Vermeer and Manet - can be any debate (in my opinion, again, is the "yin and yang"). There is no doubt but that the stories they have. In this case, there is little doubt that plotless painting of an equivalent nothing has yet been created. (Even in the brilliant "Red fish" by Henri Matisse, we can easily find out exactly fish, some exaggerated, but in spite of Signac, very "similar to what nature has to offer him." (And in other "red fish" still naked aunt see similar to the naked aunt)). Perhaps, since "liberation" was far too little time, and after 300 years the world will be revealed at last plotless canvas, filled with never seen before, "the harmony of shapes and colors," of which our happy descendants might well say: oh yeah, this thing stronger than the "Night Watch" by Rembrandt! .. Perhaps this bright day ever comes. "But to live in this time of great ..." In general, as long as we have what painting monkeys with difficulty distinguished from painting people.

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Nicholas Arzhanov ( b. 1972 ) , an artist from the city of Saratov . Perhaps a " genre " this can be attributed only to a very big stretch. In the words of the artist himself , " are only interested in the story as an excuse to create a composition ." But nevertheless ... I liked the " I brought you a fish " (here, third from the left ) . And the last - "Dream of my childhood ." The colorful painting .

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Nicholas Arzhanov ( b. 1972 ) , an artist from the city of Saratov . Perhaps a " genre " this can be attributed only to a very big stretch. In the words of the artist himself , " are only interested in the story as an excuse to create a composition ." But nevertheless ... I liked the " I brought you a fish " (here, third from the left ) . And the last - "Dream of my childhood ." The colorful painting .

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Alan Kingsbury (b. 1960) is an English artist, loves to depict imaginary scenes from life, I feel that the 20's of last century.
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Sergei Volkov Riksovich ( b. 1957 ) . Very interesting chart with persons . Winter- village things are good . He also likes to portray trams , which is understandable , since tram , being the transcendental mode of transport is at the same time and the most picturesque. Be sorry if the trams ever disappear. Of "urban" things I like most first - " Time to go home ," even though it is rather likely than urban landscape "genre" . Interesting artist .

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interesting artist.

When I see things like it " Ice Cream Eaters ", "moths" or " Net ponds. Indian Summer " here, I have two thoughts -" why did he do it? "and" , the camera makes it better "and I feel sorry for the author.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky ; 2601201 "

, and I feel sorry for the author .

Is it possible to ask you to give examples of paintings of a contemporary author ( in any genre ) , which would have been a pity you do not ? .. Just wondering , what exactly is in the modern of this painting that really would be greatly impressed .

As for the SR Volkov , yes , it did not all work at the same level . You mentioned maybe not the best. But personally, I always judge the best things that interest me the artist or not.

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Сообщение от mikhael; 2601231 "

Can I ask you to give examples of paintings by a contemporary author ( in any genre ) , which would have been a pity you do not ? ..

Now count up , think , remember ...

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Just wondering , what exactly is in this modern painting that really would be greatly impressed .

But on account of " strongly impressed me " I do not know .

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And, well, for example, that do not go away, and also the author uses photo - Simon Fajbisovich