Found in an abandoned Parisian apartment painting sold for 2.1 million euros

[NATA NOVA]

So, my friends, all reflections are well grounded, but we all have a few otoftopilis by Boldini.
Let me remind you: first, comparing, analyzing Boldini, Serov, Boldini-Serov-Feshin and now Feshin-Renoir.

Under Boldini-Serov-Feshin common is that they have worked (I rented) exclusively from nature, have an excellent pictorial drawing school and a lot of portraits:
Boldini, with lounge-coffee flair, very much and quickly (often incomplete)
Serov-realistic splendor, striving for perfection (which has no limit, and that haunted him for models)
Feshin-playing virtuosity and his (in my opinion) is not too serious about it are related to (but in my opinion, a lot of work, with all its technicality, lack of integrity)

 A comparison with Renoir as it does not fit, nature for him, only the momentum, he said to her did not attached, hence a free compositional interpretive ..
They (BSF and Renoir), different approaches, different creative techniques (different "aesthetic philosophy" if you want ..)

Posted 7 minutes

Сообщение от Seriy

Just you put the question bluntly - when Serov and Feshin will be recognized equal to the great and the price including? IMHO, ever.

 Never say never ..

[Pavel]

Boldini should be compared with artists of the country where he worked. Comparison with the Russian artists are not legitimate, and not on the level of skill, where Serov, head and shoulders above, and by the customers for whom Boldini worked and that he liked the creepy. I recall that it was they who Impressionists Renoir and disliked. It's not the ability to draw, but the ability to please. All Boldini portraits done as a blueprint, from drawing to painting. Talk about his paintings is simply nothing is pressing. Compare it with the Renoir portraits can only be ignorant or full ahromaziey. Renoir is the music of color, this color molding, it is harmony.
Talking about prices I would be postponed to a time when Russia will be the normal auctions.

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Pavel

Talking about his art is simply nothing is pressing.

Prices for "stamping" Baldini Giovanni in rubles (for Paul) -204 000 000 rbl.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Seriy

Just you put the question bluntly - when Serov and Feshin will be recognized equal to the great and the price including? IMHO, ever.

What feshinsky "Little Cowboy"? For many millions of small processing gone .. (govoryat. ..)

PS: And by the way, what price Serov? (Enlighten me, anyone can)

Posted 6 minutes

Сообщение от Pavel

All Boldini portraits done as a blueprint, from drawing to painting. Talk about his paintings is simply nothing is pressing.

Paul, if you call the "creative writing" - "punching", just want to remind you that while "punching" is the foundation of any successful (and in the sale, and gallery and senses) of the artist ..
And if there is such a personal "punching" (or "formula", as I identify), we urgently need to find!

Posted 3 hours 9 minutes
Time has come and debate began with ravnitelny analysis of prices for the work of realists, the way would be to remember the artist Lucien Freyda (yeah, the grandson of that same), it spyaschuyuyu sotsrabotnitsu, the duration of writing, perhaps even longer Serov will be .. (Causes of such duration are unknown, it is known that the portrait (?) Is not registered, wrote a long (9 months to two sessions per week-78 sessions), donated by The Model Sue. 15 years later (after several re-sales), went for 40 million fs (x is how much will be in rubles, then?)

As for the portrait likeness, so to say that the artist Freyda "original vision of nature ..
But he has all the portraits "svoebraznye .. A sample of good quality factor of realism .. Nesalonnogo and undress.
I wonder why Freyd says these are not a (very) similar (and ugly) face?

 And why Feshin may not be worth 10 million?

Anything can be. Serov and can cost millions ..
After all, the price of a quality does not depend on!
Offer for sale tomorrow ktont Serov, and here (for example) Abramovich will be "mimoprohodit" - that's you and precedent, ladies and gentlemen good, and can not escape ... Predict how much you want, but life (read: those who akumulirovas astronomical amounts) will adjust all the same .. (And never you will not know whose it was a freak) ..
Am I not right? And that it can be argued?

A no-che-ho!

[Pavel]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

What feshinsky "Little Cowboy"? For many millions of small processing gone .. (govoryat. ..)

PS: And by the way, what price Serov? (Enlighten me, anyone can)

Posted 6 minutes

Paul, if you call the "creative writing" - "punching", just want to remind you that while "punching" is the foundation of any successful (and in the sale, and gallery and senses) of the artist ..
And if there is such a personal "punching" (or "formula", as I identify), we urgently need to find!

Posted 3 hours 9 minutes
Time has come and debate began with ravnitelny analysis of prices for the work of realists, the way would be to remember the artist Lucien Freyda (yeah, the grandson of that same), it spyaschuyuyu sotsrabotnitsu, the duration of writing, perhaps even longer Serov will be .. (Causes of such duration are unknown, it is known that the portrait (?) Is not registered, wrote a long (9 months to two sessions per week-78 sessions), donated by The Model Sue. 15 years later (after several re-sales), went for 40 million fs (x is how much will be in rubles, then?)

As for the portrait likeness, so to say that the artist Freyda "original vision of nature ..
But he has all the portraits "svoebraznye .. A sample of good quality factor of realism .. Nesalonnogo and undress.
I wonder why Freyd says these are not a (very) similar (and ugly) face?

 And why Feshin may not be worth 10 million?

Anything can be. Serov and can cost millions ..
After all, the price of a quality does not depend on!
Offer for sale tomorrow ktont Serov, and here (for example) Abramovich will be "mimoprohodit" - that's you and precedent, ladies and gentlemen good, and can not escape ... Predict how much you want, but life (read: those who akumulirovas astronomical amounts) will adjust all the same .. (And never you will not know whose it was a freak) ..
Am I not right? And that it can be argued?

A no-Th-th!

You can, can! Serov can say about it all the museums and selling fiction and more so the price can only be expected. How much can cost a portrait Idochki Rubinstein?
As for Freud, so expensive, that unconventional and talented.
And what about Boldini can say simply, precisely because it is rapidly depreciating salon painting, there is only a historical value. Clearly, to sell expensive used different methods, including the findings in attics, etc. It's one thing for the benefit of the people who sell and another to sell, what is bought. There are also illusions. But I assure you, those who traffic in auctions professionally, can predict that for many will be sold, bought and sold again and prokticheski not mistaken. Experience!

[NATA NOVA]

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But I assure you, those who traffic in auctions professionally, can predict that for many will be sold, bought and sold again and prokticheski not mistaken. Experience!

Well, yes, yes! Toko cheto none of the professionals Feshina not predicted ... (for some reason) and he was already on two lists at the 5 th place (with my own eyes have seen, you can enjoy yourself) ... That's just something about this (so called) "unpredictability" and I talked ..
(Well, do not understand?)

[Pavel]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Well, yes, yes! Toko cheto none of the professionals Feshina not predicted ... (for some reason) and he was already on two lists at the 5 th place (with my own eyes have seen, you can enjoy yourself) ... That's just something about this (so called) "unpredictability" and I talked ..
(Well, do not understand?)

Maybe just someone he had lying around and he decided to unwind? Experienced traders are not looking listings and changes to the directory. This netlenka.

[Konstantin]

[QUOTE="NATA NOVA; 1446591]Well, yes, yes!
Toko cheto none of the professionals Feshina not predicted.[/QUOTE]

Read about it [URL="http://artinvestment.ru/invest/analytics/20101219__index.html"]here[/URL]

[NATA NOVA]

Dear Konstantin, (thank you, read) your link is just perfectly illustrates my basic idea: there is no logic, there is no intrinsic meaning ..

Although, if there are parallels between the (gorgeous) figure ink Dormidontova for 78 tysch.f.s. and, for example, Sisley for 200 (tysch fs) I personally are "absurd" does not see ... will be even more expensive! "There is the potential (IMHO) (pozhivem-uvidim!)

With regard to Feshinskogo "cowboy", it is possible to arbitrarily call it "hrenovry work", "medium", "pass", but show me please, at least one job (either), corresponding to level? The identity of specific "absurd" does not see it. (Sm.40 000,000 social worker Freyda)

And Feshin too expensive to be ... (predict)
Absurdity is not in prices, but in life. Everything else is a reflection ..

[Pavel]

There is little difference, Sisley, or rather his creativity knows everything and Dormidontova No, Freud, too, the whole thing in his work, which has established him repupatsiyu. In Feshina this reputation is not, so Sisley will still go up, like Freud, but Feshin and Dormidontov is only for Russian, but the money behind them will remain there. Since in our country, these artists do not circulate, then I'm afraid their prices will not rate. Alas!