Holy Russia, Myth or Reality?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

I do not really like the position of the author's themes. It is from the Monte Carlo broadcasts Russians on Russian history and does so with such a reproach, that he begins to take her siblings had fled the princes, and his grandson baltflotovtsa, drove him out of the princes of their family nest.
But in reality, "sausage emigre from the Russian provinces.
Hence, perhaps, is "And over something to see."
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Look:
That is why write it? Why? And to whom it is addressed?
Why then try to "black" name "white"?
And what have the revolutionary events of February 1917 and "Holy Russia"?

Let him write. Write, pesatel, as they say, escho.

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Сообщение от tchaika

Do not got an army to save the king!

Now, if saved - then yes. And not saved - nothing to discuss. Hindsight all strong.

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"... The Emperor parted with the army in Mogilev. "At exactly 11 o'clock, - recalled the general Tehmenev - appeared in the doorway Emperor. Shaking hands with Alexeyev, he turned right to the soldiers and shook hands with them in low tones ... "Good morning, Your Royal Highness" - a full, loud and friendly voice answered the soldiers ... Stopped, the Emperor began to speak ... He spoke loud and clear voice, very clearly and vividly, but very excited ... "Today, I see you one last time - the Emperor began - such is the will of God and the consequence of my decision." The emperor thanked the soldiers for their faithful service to him and to the Motherland, bequeathed at all costs to complete the fight against a brutal enemy, and when finished, the voltage rooms, at all times denser finally resolved. Behind Sovereign someone sobbed convulsively. That was enough to start to sob, to hold that those present were apparently unable to, once heard in many places. Many of them wept and wiped ... Officers of St. George Battalion, people, mostly wounded several times, could not stand: two of them fainted. At the other end of the hall collapsed some of the soldier-escort. The Emperor could not restrain himself and quickly headed for the exit ... "So the army farewell to their king - crying, screaming, falling back ...» http://www.rus-sky.com/history/library/rus_id/m. htm

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzranskiy

Yes, let.
I was silent for a long time and they would have remained silent, but when they started really quite a theme this kopipastit every game, utter, give a little information about the last Tsar, is not as rosy as, apparently, like the authors of the theme.

I would generally suspect in seagull real agitator, on an allowance, on small-scale price (according to qualifications) fasting in different forums on assigned topics.

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"So the army farewell to their king - crying, screaming, falling back ..."
People are the heart and pure soul. Fearless and unsophisticated. They were told - they believe. Here it is - Holy Rus.
They would have reacted very differently if they knew that the king seized the conspirators. The family of Nicholas II was taken hostage.
A "an abdication" does not exist.

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Сообщение от tchaika

"So the army farewell to their king

  About Shumsky and Rurik not want to remember. Okay.
And who are these conspirators in 1917. This is the chairman of the State Duma Chamberlain Rodzianko, the State Duma Guchkov Miliukov, Prince Lvov, Kerensky SR, head of GHQ Adjutant General Alekseev, Grand Duke Nikolai Nikolaevich, adjutant general of Ruza, adjutant general Brusilov General Krymov, General Kornilov.
 Who like Kornilov General Staff: hero of the Russian-Japanese and First World voyn.Kavaler Order of St. George 3rd and 4 th degrees of the Order of St. Anne's 2 nd degree, Order of St. Stanislaus third degree, the Mark 1 st Kuban (Ice) campaign (posthumously), the owner George weapons.
  What is he suddenly a "traitor" has decided to become?
  Here's an interesting observation: Mikhail Koltsov, talking about the circumstances of the so-called "disclaimer", wrote: "Where's rag? Icicle Where? Where weak-willed nonentity? As the terrified crowd of defenders of the throne, we see only one faithful man himself - Nicholas'. Without a doubt, the only person who tried to persist in maintaining the monarchical regime, was the monarch. rescued, defended the king one king. "

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« The whole of Russia, except in Petrograd, quietly lived and worked for the victory . Chief of Staff, General Alekseev king is well known, but did not tell the Emperor.
What reason had pushed the Adjutant General Alexeyev betray his emperor?
General Alekseev secretly met with Guchkov and from Guchkov learned of the plot against the Emperor (during his illness while on vacation). Debt General Alexeyev demanded immediate arrest Guchkov arrested accomplices, the appointment of the investigation. Gene. Alekseev debt oath failed to comply and did not. And now, knowing about the plot to liberty and even life Sovereign, Gene. Alekseev, losing conscience, calmly continued to look into the eyes of the Emperor. Was the General Alekseev accomplice conspiracy to freedom of the Emperor? We do not know. But we see and know that gene. Alexeyev was in the days of February 26 - March 2, the main saboteur of the Imperial system of Russia and thus contributed to the expansion of a riot in the capital.
Why did he, the king's chief of staff had not hurried at once, immediately, to send several cavalry divisions in Petrograd, to suppress the rebellion in its very infancy?
Gene. Alekseev knew that the capital has been collected about forty thousand workers mobilized professionals to necessities of the front, do not want to go there. Gene. Alexeyev gave an opportunity to expand rebellion. Why? Because the gene. Alekseev was aware that in the case of restoring order in the capital, where the rebellion will be crushed, no doubt, will be composed Commission to investigate the riot and conspiracy. Commission dig up his connection with Guchkov and can be, almost, probably, with other conspirators. In this case, many will pay, and among them, and he, General Alekseev. The general, caressed by the King, a gifted royal highness, and, after already close victory over the enemy, Count or future Field-Marshal became a traitor just because he made a bet "on horse" Guchkov - Rodzianko!

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General Alexeyev "confused". It is possible that he initially was not an active conspirator, but certainly about the plot, he knew, he knew personally the conspiracy against the Emperor! He knew and did not carry! Did not stop it!
General Alekseev urged Emperor "decide" when the left all the Emperor, was in Pskov, almost a prisoner, another traitor, General Ruszky.
General Alekseev risked being hanged as a traitor, and be hanged to him did not want. He is like a thief, back to the wall, went to the only free for a path - the path of betrayal of his King, the Anointed One of God's path of betrayal ...
And just because that did not open threads, connecting it with the conspirators!
Of course, their spiritual blindness, General Alekseev, could not foresee the terrible consequences for the Tsar and Russia ... »http://www.imha.ru/knowledge_base/li...adyutanta.html

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"Guchkov then he told how in 1916 they were thought out details of the conspiracy. "The plan was - said Guchkov - to take on the road between the Tsar's village and the rate of the imperial train, forcing abdication, then at the same time, through the units, which in Petrograd could expect to arrest the existing government and then declare a revolution and on individuals who lead a government ... He had to find a part that would have been located for the protection of railway way, and it was difficult. "

The plan was then, in 1916, agreed with all the Masonic and bolshevik centers, so that both "tier" ready.

Who is Guchkov?
Guchkov - "not a trading merchant, a very rich family of Old Believers. Volunteered to participate in the Anglo-Boer War 1899-1902 GG on the side of the Boers. Held prisoner by the British and, perhaps, there was attached to the Masons. In 1905 he was a prominent and well-known figure, a mason of high degree, the leader of the party "Octobrists." For personal convictions - a supporter of constitutional monarchy.

Guchkov - a very great inner strength! But this force - dark. Just look at the portrait of him: in his eyes - the darkness. It is vain, like all self-proclaimed policy Guchkov initially bet that he will be able to assert their influence and "charm" himself Emperor Nicholas II. But the Emperor recognized, felt it, and quite "cool down" Guchkov, giving him several times to understand that any influence on the King, he will not have. This is extremely annoyed "strong personality" and Guchkov 1909-1910 GG took almost openly hostile to the Emperor's position. For all his pride Guchkov, however, was a politician usual. He did not have any of his, special exercises and Messianic claims.

Another thing - the leader of the second revolutionary direction Lenin ...

In 1912-1913, GG Guchkov for some reason, almost a year spent in the Balkans. However, you can guess why: it was there preparing to launch World War II and the destruction of Russia. He came back with a surprise to many outsiders as members of his Octo-party change its position. Now he is no longer hidden, as before, but openly and officially stated: "We have to defend the monarchy (!) Against those who are the natural defenders of the monarchical principle. Church - against the church hierarchy (!?), army - against its leaders. " And this apparent absurdity of demagogic was the ideological "platform" on which the generals were traitors who had joined the conspiracy "Military Lodge"! .. Truly whom God wants to punish every one that takes the mind ".

"... Try to make a truly snake's nest, a breeding ground of lies, gossip about the royal family and the most fantastic inventions of the situation on the front and rear, agitated society. In the Duma Miliukov Kerensky, even outrageous Purishkevich pronounced inflammatory speeches against the royal authority. Chairman of the Duma helped them and let those who tried to argue and defend the honor of the Emperor, for which he received from the Markov public - "Bastard!"

"At the end of 1916, Petrograd was full of reserve soldiers (mostly from workers), nor for that did not wish to go to the front! All of them (about 200 thousand!) Received daily from 25 rubles from the "revolutionary fund." http://www.rusorthodox.com/books/leb...pters/ch32.htm