Holy Russia, Myth or Reality?

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Сообщение от Fed

  Shuya generally no renunciation not written. So, the Romanovs ruled illegitimate? It may be remembered in Russia Shuya?

One might think that the official document something decisive. Decide bayonets and the elite. Therefore, elucidation of a real one abdication from the throne does not make any sense. A document or not - this is just a meaningless detail.

[Fed]

Сообщение от tchaika

for the Army, which is bound by an oath before God, King and the Fatherland? Tsar Nicholas II was never released a special act of the military oath of allegiance. Hence, the abdication was not. Was the illegal arrest of the King.

  At the swearing in of the fatherland was nothing, only the service of the king.
  Interesting that the Soviet officers and soldiers from the military oath USSR also not absolved.

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Сообщение от Fed

It is interesting that the Soviet soldiers and officers from the military oath USSR also not absolved.

And there were tikie words:

I'm always ready for orders from the Soviet Government to the defense of my country - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and, as a soldier of the Armed Forces, I swear to defend it bravely, skilfully, with dignity and honor, not sparing their blood and life itself in order to achieve complete victory over our enemies.

[Konstantin]

Well all - a retreat.

[tchaika]

the military oath of Russian Imperial Army:

"I promise and swear by Almighty God, to His Holy Gospel that I want and need His Majesty the All-Russian Autocrat and His Imperial Majesty the All-Russian Throne Heir true hypocrisy to serve, not sparing the stomach, to the last drop of blood, and all of His Imperial High HM Samoderzhavstvu power and authority belong to the rights and benefits of statutory and legal sanction to continue, at fit, strength and capabilities to execute.

His Imperial Majesty and the State Lands His enemies body and blood in the fields and castles, water and by land, in battles, parties, sieges and assaults, and other military cases, a brave and strong resistance and repair all try to succor that by His Imperial Majesty's service and benefits the state in any case can relate to.

About the same damage to His Imperial Majesty's interest, the harm and loss as soon as that uvedayu, let alone declare a forewarning, but also ward off all sorts of measures and not dopuschat make haste and all entrusted stealthiness hard to keep going, and predpostavlennym over me head around that by benefits and service of the state concern will be properly repaired, and all obedience to their conscience and to correct their self-interest, property and friendship and enmity against the service and the oath does not come from the team and the flag, which belong, although in the field, baggage or garrison never absent, but in the add-on, is still alive, I will follow and all behave and act as an honest, loyal, obedient, brave and a smart officer (soldier), should be. What's so help me Lord God Almighty.

In conclusion, this oath of whole words and cross my Savior. Amen.

from this oath of Emperor Nicholas II did not exempt the special act of war (!!!).
retreat from the military oath is perjury, not only to the Emperor and the Fatherland, but also before God!

[Pavel]

And he himself gave.

[tchaika]

« around treason and cowardice and deceit », - Nicholas II.
The revolution began with Slander. The Emperor Nicholas II was slandered. (And continues to be).
No matter how well-known idea of libel as a political tool, clearly expressed in the aria "Don Basilio" (switch from the commedia dell'arte) from the opera "The Barber of Seville" (which played brilliantly Chaliapin), however, it operates to this day. And our national history simply confirms.

"Slander first sweet
Veterochkom little flutters
And as if furtively
Hearing a human barely caresses
And murmurs as the brook.

Behind the scenes on the sly
Creeps everywhere, everywhere,
Gradually all folk
The mind and the heart fills
And word of mouth flies
As a lesson learned by rote.

Stronger with each passing hour
Growing interpretation
That rattles so common voice,
It has become common klevetanem.

Here is how the storm broke,
Thundered and rolled
Irresistible wave.
Noise is all growing,
In horror, thrill people ...

And like a bomb exploding,
Slandering all shakes
And shakes this world.

The man who was target persecution
Having suffered all the humiliation
Dies in the general opinion
Struck by slander. "

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Сообщение от Konstantin

any debate had run its course, or civic is still ongoing.

I do not really like the position of the author's themes. It is from the Monte Carlo broadcasts Russians on Russian history and does so with such a reproach, that he begins to take her siblings had fled the princes, and his grandson baltflotovtsa, drove him out of the princes of their tribal slot.
Hence, perhaps, is "And over something to see."

[tchaika]

It was a call to action.
"Telegram from the Emperor to the GHQ, forgery called" an abdication "was the last call of the emperor. From this telegram every honest and faithful officer became clear that the emperor is performed over the violence that this coup. Why the emperor, and chose the form of a telegram to headquarters, knowing that it will be immediately sent to the troops triumphant generals, traitors, and there were still loyal to the king, swearing, oath commanders and soldiers.
That is, as a call to action to save the throne, and Russia, understand this telegram Commander 3rd Corps Lt. Gen. Theodore Arturovich Keller. Gathering representatives from each of hundreds and squadron assigned to him parts, he said: "I received a dispatch about the abdication of the Emperor and about a Provisional Government. I, your old commander, who divided with you and hardships and sorrows, and joys, do not believe that the Emperor at such a moment could voluntarily give up on the death of the army and Russia. Here's a telegram which I sent the King: "3rd Cavalry Corps does not believe that you, Sir, voluntarily abdicated. Command, King, come and defend you. " "Hurrah! Hooray! - Shouted the dragoons, Cossacks and hussars. - Support all, not give offense to the Emperor! "The ascent was immense. Everyone wanted to rush to the rescue of the captive Emperor." But Lieutenant-General Keller was immediately removed from command of the Corps Headquarters.
Another honest officer - chief of staff, a separate Guards Cavalry Corps Col. AG Viken - on behalf of his commander, Adjutant General Khan Nakhchivan, at that time absent, sent a telegram to the king, and he had the right in exceptional circumstances: "Until We have heard information about the major events. Please do not refuse to throw down at the feet of His Majesty's boundless devotion to the Guard cavalry and willingness to die for their beloved monarch. Adjutant-General Han-Nakhichevan. When Viken reported this dispatch arrived Khan, who came in such a rage that Viken understood, after the report went to his room and shot himself.

Not got armiya save the king! Although no instrument of abdication, whether even a real one manifesto of abdication, not freed from the host of the oath and oath, if this document is not mentioned directly. A year later, when Germany's Emperor Wilhelm abdicated from the throne, he delivered a special act of the military oath of allegiance. This act was to sign and the Emperor Nicholas Alexandrovich, if indeed the thought of abdication.

To this day, not only historians puzzling inexplicable facts, how could the Red Army, basically composed of deserters from the pitch rabble, a flock of crows congregate on the slogan "Rob the robbers, led by a lieutenant Krylenko the First World War, only the former editor-yeller" Okopnaia truth, escaped convicts led by Trotsky, who did not have the slightest, even praporschitskogo military experience, led by student-educated, Frunze cadet Antonov-Ovseyenko, physician Sklyansky - how could there is the Red Army to press the White Guard, defeat Kornilov, Denikin, Wrangel , Kolchak, the best students of the best military academies, the most experienced military leaders, mature in victories and defeats of the Japanese and the war against Germany, assembled under their banners battle-hardened at the front of officers loyal to the soldiers at the front ... Why in spite of undeniable advantages, the obvious superiority, the experience of White Army under the authority of the best officers in Russia failed? But because each of them, and Kornilov and Denikin, Kolchak and, like every soldier, Warrant Officer, officer, lay a grave sin for perjured persons, betraying his sovereign, the anointed of God. For the Orthodox it is clear: God did not give them victory.

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