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Сообщение от dedulya37

Cyril, how do you slow-witted, right! Five years later, the new owner perenazovet it again.

If the owner of Foot will assign them a new "zdezdam" domestic stage, he heavily lower the capitalization of the thing. We must remember the celebrities of a bygone era - Isadora Duncan, for example.

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What I do is interesting, because they say that the Soviet is not liquidity, it is nonsense, but where is it? After all, it is not on the market, look how many artists participated only Ukrainy.gde these works cast?, Well, we put 50%died, where they sell a Soviet? Mean they are in museums, or taken out, or in collections. 1954 Moscow

Visual arts exhibition UKRAINIAN SSR ON TERCENTENARY reunification of Ukraine RUSSIAN

Open from 16 October 1954 in Moscow, State Tretyakov Gallery.

Attended by 403 artists, 906 works exhibited.

Published an illustrated catalog: Exhibition of Fine Arts of the Ukrainian SSR, dedicated tercentenary reunification of Ukraine and Russia. Painting. Sculpture. Schedule. Directory. [Ed. PI Police station, IM Michaux, LS Milyaeva, LI Popova, SE Rajewski, LI Turunova, LG Chlenova, VM Alterman, FI Boguslavskaya and RZ Zaygerman]. Kiev, 1954. (Ministry of Culture of the Ukrainian SSR. Union of Soviet Artists of Ukraine).

Participants: Averin VG, Agibalov VI Agnita-Sledzevsky KG, Adamkevich VV, Adamovich, SF, Albinovskaya S. Yu, A. Ananin M., Antonchik MV Apanovich VA, Babak PI, Babintsev VV Babkova AA, Basil NI Bazilevich AD, Bannikov, AA , Barinov, MN, Baroyants MS, Barsamov NS, Bahmutov GP Bednoshey DP, Bezugly DI, Beklemisheva IM, and Beletsky, PA, Bialystok AE, E. Bialystok, Balti, GI, Berkowitz, GB, Berlyavskaya NI, Vernadsky, D., Besedin SF Bizyukov OT, Biryukov P., Blanc, BP, N. J. Bogomolny, God MM, Bozhko AK Bokshay II, Bondarenko GA, Bondarovsky B. C., Boretsky AA Borisanov VT, Borisenko PF, Boroday VZ, Bortnikov, NF, Budnikov AG, Bunov VL Burachek NG , BI Vaks, AI Veksler, Viktorzhevskaya ZV, Vinaykin VP Vihtinsky VI Vlasov, VG, Vovk AI, Vovchenko VM, Volkova NP, Volkovinskaya ZV, Volobuyev EV, Volokidin PG, Vronsky MK, Gavdzinsky A., Galkin, GS, Garkusha GT, Geveke P. P., Gelman MI, Gerus BS, Gilmanshin LG, Colt VI Glivenko, VL, Glickman GN, Glushchenko N., Gluck GM , N. Gnoevoy Gobda VG Golovich PS, Golubov AA, Gonchar, IM, Gorobets P., Grabowski, ER, Gregoriychuk PN, Grigoriev, S. A . Grishin SI, Thunder LB, Gruzberg SB, Guetsky S., Gurevich, M., Gutmann, GP, Gutorov I. F., Davydov, VV, Dayts IA Danilevsky EI, Danchenko AG, Dekormendzhi MD, Deputatova PF, Deregus MG, Jolos LI, Dzindra EV, Dziuban AND . F., Didenko KV, Dobrzhansky VM, Dougal A. M., Domnenkov GA Domozhirova KA, Dontsov MA, Dudin O., Dyba BL Dyadichev B. C., Evdokimenko VA Egorov, EP, Elansky AK Erzhikovsky SN, Ershov, MI, Zhaspar TP, Zherenko LI, Zabashta VI , Zadorozhnyi VF Zaitsev, NM, Zaretsky VI, Zaruba, KV, Sause W. H., Zatsepin ZI, Zdyhovsky OA, Zemskov LM Znoba VI Znoba I. S., Zorya, GD, Zubkovsky GS, Ivanov BN, Ivanov MI, Izhakevich JS, Kavaleridze IP, Kalnitskaya E. N. Kalchenko GN, Capt. LA, Kaplan, LB, Karas I., Karmazin VN Kasiyan VI Kashshay A. M., Kiriazi FG, kyselica DA, Klokov VM Knyuh A. T., mare, MV, Kovalev AA, Kovtun, NP, Kovturman K. Kogan, M. Schatz, B., Kodev PI, Kozyurenko AG, Kolesnik A. Kominsky EA, Kompaniets ND, Kontratovich ER, Kondratyuk VF , Konovalyuk F. Z., Kopelman, LO, Kornev NV, Korobov VA, Kostecki V., Kotek, NV, Kohan, KF, Mishka, SL, Koshtelyanchuk LF Kravchenko, VD, Kravchenko, JK, Red JH, Krvavich DP, Krivenko MI Krizhevsky GZ, Kroshitsky MP, Circles I. M. Krupski II, Kudryashov E. L., Kuklin N., Kulchitskaya EL, Kuntsevich EM, Kupnevsky BL Kudenko PY, Ladyzhenskii WH , Lazeba SI Levin, EN, Levitsky, L., Legeza VI Lesnitskaya LI, Litvinenko, VG, Loi N., Lomykin KM, Lopukhov A. M., Los IG Luchenko ED, Lysenko MG, Lysov JS, Lgotak LA, Lubchik VA Lyakhovich LP, Maksimenko, AG , Maloshtan VI Maloshtanov NI Manyukov MN, Markin, SG, Martynov AV, Masik VI Massalsky GP Matsekh LM, Maciejewski JA, Melikhov GS, Melgunov IM, Melnikov, LK, Melnychuk, EA, Minsk, GS, Mironenko VF Mironov GP, Mishchenko NV M. Movchun PF, Monastic AI Monastic VA Mordovets AN Morozov, MG, Mukhin, VI, Muchnik LE, Myasnikov P. Naumova TS, Nesterenko AK, Nesterenko, NV, lower-Shablykino SM Nimenko AV NOVOKRESHCHENOVA GN, Novoselova, AN, Overchuk AF , Ovsyannikov EI Ognivtsev NP, Oleinik, AP Eagle O. Ostapenko, PF, Otreshko GM, Otroshchenko SB, Ocheretko JE, Pavlivker GA Pavlov, A., Pavlyuk NA, Parhet PP, Parkhomenko II, Parczew VV, Paschenko A., Petrashevich GL Petrov, V. I. Pivovarov, GL, Plamenitsky AA Plesovskiy AE, Pleshinsky JH, Pogrebinsky PN, Podervyansky SP Poltavets VV, Ponomarev VI , Poplawski, MK, Popov, A., Postel, AB, Printsevsky ID, Prichepa JM, Prokhorov KA, Prokhorov, SM, bubbles, VG, Puteyko VG Razhba J. S. Rappaport, BN, Reznik, IA, Reznichenko AI, Rodin, NA, Rybnikov AI, Growl, IL, Ryabinin NA A. Ryabov, VF, Ryabchenko SV, Savin, VM, Sawicki NL Savchenko, VN, Samokish NS, Samusev FA, Safargalin AG , Sakhnenko VI Svetlitsky GP Svyda VI, Severin V., Seliber VE, Selivanov, IM, Semykina LN Serbutovsky AA Sidoruk VF, Sizikov VV Simashkevich, VN, Sinitsky VM Siper VP, Sirota IA Sirotenko AI Sirotenko NA, Skolozdra B. I., meetings PD, Slipchenko NF, Slyschenko B. C., Soboleva IV, Sokirinsky GA, Sokolova ZI, Solov'ev ES, Solodovnik S., Solon, LR, Starishko GF, Starovoitova MG , Style, LM, Stolyarenko PK, Stoyanov O., Subbotin AI, Sulimenko PS, Suponin P., Suprun OA, I. Tartakovsky, Telishev VV Tishenko MA, Todorov MD, Tokarev VV Tokarev, A. L., Tomenko GA Tregub EZ, Trofimenko B. C., Trokhymenko KD Tyuha IA Ukader Yu, PL, PM, Usikova G., Fadeev, MI, Feinerman AL, Falchuk FY , Mabuza WH Filippov, KF, Filonov JH, Filonyuk NK Firsov, VA, Wick L., Friedman, EM, Futerman H., Han NA, Hvorostetsky JF, Khvostenko TA, Khvostenko-tails AV Khitrik VP Khitrova TA, Khmelko MI Khmelnitsky, A., Hovav VA Hodchenko LP Khokhlov, FI, Khusid G. J., Tsvetkova, VP, Zepelev MI, seagull YI, Chalenko Y., M. Chepik M. Chernikov, VM, Chernov, LI, Chernukha VD Chichkan LI, Chubin, AE, Chuvakin FF, Chumak IM Shavykin DN , Shanin MS, Shapoval (Besha) BM, Shapoval IP, Shapran AA, Shatalin VV Shelyuto NA, Shigimaga PA, Szyszko S. F ., Shkurko AN, Shmatko LA, Shovkunenko AA Sholtes ZI, Shostak, DZ, Shpolyansky GE, Shtilman I., Shcheglov, A. M., M. Shcheglov, Shcherbina BG, Ebers BM, Elbert B. D. Epstein, J. H., Erdelyi A. M., Yugay VN Yurchenko, B. C., Yukhno II, Yablonskaya EN, Yablonskaya TN, Yablonsky GN, Yablonsky, PA, Yakovenko, EN, Yakubich VI Yakunin, IV , Yalansky VG, Yanovsky VK, Spring, SK, Yatsenko, VF

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Сообщение от Samvel

then they are in museums

Yes, in the funds.

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от "Samvel

say that the Soviet is not liquidity, it is nonsense, and where it

In Soviet times, has been the practice: purchased from exhibitions.
Then these works as a distributed, or sent to a museum or Peripheral to the hotels for interior decoration, etc. ...

[Игорь Гурьев]

I once watched exhibition catalogs AHRR.

And ask yourself a question: where is all this stuff?


And artists.

Where the legacy of, say, Johannson?


Where Laktionov?

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Yes, in the funds.

The question arises: "Where these funds?"

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Сообщение от K-Maler

In Soviet times, has been the practice: purchased from exhibitions. Then these works as a distributed, or sent to a museum or Peripheral to the hotels for interior decoration, etc. ...

Yes, that's it - We buy (ie pay money) to the exhibitions. To get to the exhibition had to pass the Fair. In vystavkome were daring artists? No, cowardly functionaries, wavering with the party line. Well, etc. So the system works - examples from the life I lead a million.

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Сообщение от Samvel

I think that the wait is not much, 5-10 years, and then one of their shows, or offers, where they work? There were so many of these artists, where they work, the exhibition? Rights Paul, they are in the collections, and the level is not something that is higher, and as heaven and earth. And if you just do something that can shoot, only the Soviet, because the other art we do not have. There are individual members, but this drop in the ocean.

In some works of art of the Soviet period there is a certain self-identity and it's really interesting in all plans, including and investment. These works can be characterized as an ontology of owls. system. Such work - units. The above Eugene examples, in my opinion of this series. There is work done by academic canons of the historical and everyday topic. It works by masters, or so-called exhibition of work. Such work is also rare for a reason. That's all. Everything else - not interested.

In general, the subject is so vast. that there can be no one to write a monograph. Yes, there was a period in the history of the world isikustva and domestic. Was, and all went out. Do not become the Soviet system - was not and Soviet art. The experiment failed, the curtain.

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Сообщение от artcol; 1386001"

is to make work on the academic canons of the historical and everyday topic. It works by masters, or so-called exhibition of work

Valery, but art galleries of works, the artists of the Soviet period, have made a lot of work for themselves, for the soul and often come across the beautiful, talented things ..
Now the big concern (among collectors) for the period 1930-1950 .. It is a pity that Raymond Johnson brought a 15-20 t.luchshih work in the U.S. .. I bought for 100-500 U.S. dollars, and now sells 60-100 times more expensive. . (for example, the last trading SodBi)
On the topic of The collector Raymond Johnson http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...5785&highlight =%D0%A0%D1%8D%D0%B9%D0%BC%D0%BE %D0%BD%D0%B4

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Сообщение от Eugene

Valery, but art galleries of works, the artists of the Soviet period, have made a lot of work for themselves, for the soul and often come across the beautiful, talented things ..
Now the big concern (among collectors) for the period 1930-1950 .. It is a pity that Raymond Johnson brought a 15-20 thousand of the best works in the U.S. .. I bought for 100-500 U.S. dollars, and now sells 60-100 times more expensive .. (For example, the last trading SodBi)
On the topic of The collector Raymond Johnsonhttp://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...BE%D0%BD%D0%B4
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So in fact of the matter is that:

often come across the beautiful, talented stuff ..

But I would not say it often. And how do they relate to the Soviet art? Only as a trick gallerists: bind good to mediocre, to call it the Soviet and sell.

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Сообщение от artcol

In some works of art of the Soviet period there is a certain self-identity and it's really interesting in all plans, including and investment.

I do not think that in some, but most of the papers, they just can not see who they endorse, where books on this periudu, store shelves are full, Vangogami, Renoir, etc.. but what you can find it the crumbs and then buk.magazinam that produced in the union. Soviet art had not yet fired, someone should pull the trigger. Others here can not shoot at the Russian Art, ends gunpowder. After all, look around Soviet art in difitsite, which sells the Soviet 40-60s, so the fortieth markups ever seen.

Сообщение от artcol

Yes, that's it - We buy (ie pay money) to the exhibitions. To get to the exhibition had to pass the Fair. In vystavkome were daring artists?

No, not bold, but they were 2-3, or even one, but rather bold personality (Authoritative people) who, even superficially, and their professionalism, whose voice was more important than half of all votes. I'm one who sits, sechas not be brave, in any case. I remembered one stihotrorenie, excerpt (Time, so ruthlessly to the brave and innocent).

Сообщение от artcol

Yes, there was a period in the history of the world isikustva and domestic. Was, and all went out. Do not become the Soviet system - was not and Soviet art. The experiment failed, the curtain.

That there should be names of artists, director, theater and music to say that A Schnittke, Rachmaninov, it failed exeperimental?

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Сообщение от Samvel

I do not think that in some, but most of the papers, they just can not see who they endorse, where books on this periudu, store shelves are full, Vangogami, Renoir, etc.. but what you can find it the crumbs and then buk.magazinam that produced in the union. Soviet art had not yet fired, someone should pull the trigger. Others here can not shoot at the Russian Art, ends gunpowder. After all, look around Soviet art in difitsite, which sells the Soviet 40-60s, so the fortieth markups ever seen.

No, not bold, but they were 2-3, or even one, but rather bold personality (Authoritative people) who, even superficially, and their professionalism, whose voice was more important than half of all votes. I'm one who sits, sechas not be brave, in any case. I remembered one stihotrorenie, excerpt (Time, so ruthlessly to the brave and innocent).

That there should be names of artists, director, theater, and music to say that A Schnittke, Rachmaninov, it failed exeperimental?

Samvel, all this can be a long debate, if not put all on the shelves and define concepts. This can be done. But the whole philosophy - a thankless task. So I'm just here expressing their TZ