Russian art market in 2017

[Maskit]

IV, we here in a little while discussing Vasya Lozhkina won him a certain importance in the market, the market simply is not on ART. There were, are and will be similar to this one , a phenomenon , Lozhkin , Vilkiny , Dyrkiny.Ih must learn to ignore it - all active ignorance exists only among his own kind , and wants this range of fun, foolishness and stupidity of these ready platit.Vse Similar hudozhnichki and them , the arts, there temporarily while running around and hang them , they earn their sozdateli.I holes in the head and other parts of a picture of a supplement to their image and podobiyu.Otimevshim otimevshimsya and want something to fuck by heart .

[iside]

Сообщение от IV; 1947801"

Maskit, you say , pozhauysta - Lozhkin member of the art market or outside it ?

IV, if you do not mind I would say , though I admit the fact that you're asking me about similar nekolko struck.
No, the artist Lozhkin not a party to the art market , as well as the one who praises him . Even the picture and not all are included in the system of the art market. For example, the gallery is a member of Aidan Salakhova art market, and some the gallery , which distributes thin - suvenironoy product that never gets any prestigious collections , or at auctions or to museums - is not.
Each , of course, decide for myself , but I assure you that listening to (reading )
Cyril Syzran You can learn many useful and necessary , and then you really decide for themselves >

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Сообщение от Seriy

To me he is an example of how people, categorically does not accept "playing field" in the art market can be a popular and well sold.

This phrase is explained to me a lot.

[Pavel]

The emergence of all kinds of inflated figures say that there is no art market, but there is no indication of the impossibility of his emergence as a very profitable business.
Already there are other ratings.
The large number of unsold works, seeking to escape as steam and pressurized.

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от Pavel

The presence of a huge number of unsold works, seeking to escape as steam and pressure pumps.

A beautiful phrase, but I can not imagine any outcome.
Explosion?
What?
Pictures?
Prices?
And as a result of the explosion that?
The change of government last?

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Сообщение от Konstantin; 1949011"

beautiful phrase , but I can not imagine any outcome .

Not " the large number of unsold works" is important , not what is in the first place.
Demand creates supply.
Painting will be in demand, will buy the pictures , I would say so too , and these pictures will appear .
Zatovarennye stores do not cause splash purchasing this " stale goods ," but rather the opposite . The boom is when the consumer is afraid not to buy because of the limited quantity of goods specified category.
Why , say , at night, people stand on the streets in anticipation of the start of sales of any new iPods , iPhones , aypedov ? And while they did little .

[Konstantin]

Сообщение от iside; 1948641"

artist Lozhkin not a party to the art market

I've been in connection with this discussion, looked him in the LJ. It's funny in places and in my very sincere. Do not restrain myself bring the text. I will try zapikat profanity, although the text loses.

You probably know how I feel about various philologists, iskuystvovedam, politically, and all sorts of artists puzzled culturologists - as shit I dislike them.

And now I skidded into the cesspool of theirs - GTSZI, where they had a "round table" on policy and iskuystvo, artist and politota and Th-type out there.

I was late - come, they sit in the hall are in the dark and watching the white-Chorna some movies on the screen, and then show zhyvotnyh, well, all sorts of birds, monkeys. Murk some. As I understood, to tune in to their boltologicheskuyu orgy. Although the hell knows - maybe it's not just a screensaver, video art and what the next oh ... vshego possessed conceptual conceptual - and they are sitting kulturku relish ..

Well, look, such lights in the room included. I look - my mother dear, some zhydy! Hipsters but linguists, all such clever facial expressions, such are well cultured people, it is clear that in his element. Bald, many with beards, aunt finally can such straight, no proletarian.

No, well, I'm also such a pindzhake prishol, bald and wearing glasses. Well, like, too, from the cultural. I sat down with crust. The truth from someone stale smell, but never understood by anyone.

In general, sitting at a table about six people most vocal microphones, and others - such as audience, are actively involved in discussions. And this whole thing is broadcast on the radio "Voice of America." But where it does not on the radio talking about art?

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And away we go - as they began to bear its blizzard "aktsionmizm 90 shit", "conceptualism on th ..," "political policy st .. fucked us ... Th!". (Not well, not so of course - where your intelligent and more sophisticated word), and viewers are glazischi pleasure that sunset, then roll out, especially when about politics. It is seen that all the buzz in it.

Well, I realized that I had not got there yet realized that nicherta do not understand and can not understand, and listen to this - well, what's the point? There is such linguists sit and drive their nonsense about some trends out there, meaning, distance, about some kind of French by a fag recall about local some more nonsense from the Nerds, well, about the art of artists who eat shit, etc. .
I thought quietly be with ... tsya, merged, so a phone call back, like you have to also say something cho!
Near Th .. what can I say to them?

So he returned, there was already half fled, others were sweating already - to see a full-length discourse over there and debatory passed, not all survived the heating.

And those who remain have driven though weary, but very pro nepoymi INTO.
Bald some screaming from the place - you confuse designers and artists, where plumbers and plumbing, why they bl .. mb not paint a picture? Another answered him - no one fitter to organize, no at all. Then he stands up and says his aunt, and here I am not an art ... kulturologichny ring, the debate we have today INTO, straight as well on our way in the cultural, but that's them .. I do not understand why we are gathered here? I'm all the way kayfovat, and now realized that shit and you knock on you! The second aunt jumped up and echoed it - yes, you do not here about what to do and then you svolota all!

But those who stayed at the table named in the return line to the microphone - yes you are stupid sheep, but it's good that you ask about it - they say, what in general conversation, because we do not know, but it's good, because the main thing - do not find answers, and pose questions. Because that's the whole cultural and multur our member.

And then I hear so they say - but let's give the word dude from the people, it is not an artist, and cattle, and putinoid moron - Vaska Lozhkin. And I shoved a microphone.

Shit .. But Cho said that? Well the first thought - "Fuck you H.. J!", But I'm man of the world too, as it were, well, about all there is the notion of politeness etiquette have. I tell them - you guys are smart, I'm already ready to crap, but I draw the picture without thinking about your concepts or whatever, well that's about all this because I'm stupid and I can generally go from here?

They clapped their hands are and say - go from here to your barn or wherever you crawled out of our cultural tusnyak.

Well, that's about as it was.
No, well maybe not quite so
or even not so
but in my mind in this form is deposited.
In short, I kulturki hapnul today.

And all who were there - I do not know anyone, I'm sure they are good people, all faces are intelligent, but it is not my thing, so .. well as at a rally of Chinese mathematicians to visit - what, why, what - is unclear. No, it is clear that some of them of his philological fervor well, well, they probably something useful to do, put out the issues, discuss-kulturiruyut, iskusstvednichayut and politicized, and I, as a person who creates the images and do not invest in They make any sense - there is nothing in these places to go

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[Pavel]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzran

Not "the large number of unsold works" is important, not what is in the first place.
Demand creates supply.
Painting will be in demand, will buy the pictures, I would say so too, and these pictures will appear.
Zatovarennye stores do not cause splash purchasing this "stale goods," but rather the opposite. The boom is when the consumer is afraid not to buy because of the limited quantity of goods specified category.
A stale product is finally on sales of Grosheva prices.

Why, say, at night, people stand on the streets in anticipation of the start of sales of any new iPods, iPhones, aypedov? And while they did little. And as long as they buy "in a fight-dog", the company has created a new product line up again and turn at night. >

Art, in contrast to the items you listed, only more expensive over time. It is known by many and great demand and sovetkoe art in the first place, if only because it is a unique phenomenon. Style. Give me a Soviet artist, who would not buy. There is no. Immigrant artists only relatively expensive. Compared with local, they no comparison. I have already said that the problem is that we are not able to sell bought, so buying a little.

[Toinen]

Сообщение от Pavel

art, unlike the items you listed, only more expensive over time.

Wow!
But while the grass grows, horse die of starvation!

Really popular names are not so much.

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Сообщение от Pavel; 1949151"

art, unlike the items you listed, only more expensive over time.

Unfortunately for the authors' heirs and investors, the more expensive it's not all.
Many things Kulen for decent money, cheaper.

Сообщение от Pavel; 1949151"

This is the most known and the demand is great and sovetkoe art in the first place, if only because it is a unique phenomenon.

Of Soviet art now vostrebovanoy or names, or a very high quality genre, genre multi-figured compositions of great busy. And this art is at least 30 years, many authors and have not lived up to these high prices.
 

Сообщение от Pavel; 1949151"

Give me a Soviet artist, who would not buy.

I will not name names - go to the last auction Sovkoma and Shishkin - there is average%%of sales.
Endless cubic meters of birch and spruce trees have nicks are not needed, as well as sketches, pocherkushki. Yes, and still lifes are already ate.

Сообщение от Pavel; 1949151"

There is not.

It's easier to call, someone bought it. >

Сообщение от Pavel; 1949151"

Immigrant artists only relatively expensive. Compared with local, they may be compared.

It's funny, yes.
Look at recent auctions Modern Art at Sotheby's, Christie's: beauty as much as your breath away! And we all too yu I'm sorry.

Сообщение от Pavel; 1949151"

I have already said that the problem is that we are not able to sell bought, so buying a little.

Yes, this is your mantra all learned.
Excellent painting and at Western auctions for sale - and Pimenov, and Popkov, and Stozharau, and Gerasimov is the same.

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Сообщение от Konstantin

It's funny, sometimes very sincerely and in my opinion.

What's so funny?
Gopnichesko-bydlyache "gee-gee-gee" at the most undemanding youth series.

Are there any "real boys" on TV for many, I think it's "gee-gee-gee, count up, in-kind" cause.
And frankly, too.