Investments - Analysis - meaning

[Tana]

I do think that it was strange even to argue that it is better to invest, because there are plenty of examples, both positive and negative in every field, unfortunately universal prescription "as well to invest, either.
I can say that the need to invest wisely, and there really anyone on how much of this mad enough

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Meister

let adequately perceive the counter-parties, or let the matter does not raise.

Perechital vsio spetsial'no. Neadekvatnosti na nashiol. A vy, chto storonnik "odnopartiinoi sistemy ".

Vash vzgliad pravil'nyi, a ostal'nye neadekvatny?

V akademicheskom stile myshleniia liubye ustanovki podvergaiutsia somneniiu.
Ia s takim ze uspehom mogu obosnovat ', chto art iavliaetsia luchshei investitsiei.

No, poskol'ku, eta pozitsiia zaniata vami, ia zanimaiu protivopoloznuiu (nichego lichnoga, prosto dlia vedeniia diskussii).

Do sih por ser'ioznoi argumentatsii s vashei storony ne vstretil.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Tana

I do think that it was strange even to argue that it is better to invest

In health, beauty, friendship, love and children! (Well, if I stay in pechatleniya ..)

[artcol]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Posemu, vy, pozaluista, vedite svoiu liniiu, a ia budu prodolzat 'vyskazyvat' svoio mnenie.

If you type in the business pros, the controlling means on the art market, it will not argue about anything.

Yes, "investments" in the art produce profits. Just as in real estate, securities, etc. Root causes of yield: conservation of excess liquidity . A profit - is secondary. And nothing more - the world (economy) as constructed.

But to call trading the artwork, or a status portreblenie investment - is self-deception. Actually all disputes arise from the erroneous use of the term investment in this context. Well, or if you want - dragged the term.

Change the paradigm of the world and all your investment fly down the drain. Zarathustra will come and say: people - is something that must be overcome! I will do it.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от Tana

I do think that it was strange even to argue that it is better to invest

And also all the things that make the world better!

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от artcol

If you enter a pro-business broker, the controlling means on the art market, it will not argue about anything.

Ne sovsem soglasen. Broker ne rabotaet na rynke i ne riskuet svoimi den'gami. On pokupaet i prodaiot dlia investora. Pri etom poluchaet pribyl 'nezavisimo ot vyigrysha ili proigrysha investora.

Sporit 'vsegda est' o chiom

Esli eto brokeradz, kotoryi daiot sovety - to u nih tak ze svoia strategiia i taktika, no kommissionnye gorazdo vyshe.

Primerno, ka art diller: vy pokupaete u nego, on zarabatyvaet, vy prodaiote cherez nego on zarabaryvaet, a vash dohod /ubytok eto vash ... (uprostil do primitiva )

[artcol]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Ne sovsem soglasen. Broker ne rabotaet na rynke i ne riskuet svoimi den'gami. On pokupaet i prodaiot dlia investora. Pri etom poluchaet pribyl 'nezavisimo ot vyigrysha ili proigrysha investora.

Sporit 'vsegda est' o chiom

Esli eto brokeradz, kotoryi daiot sovety - to u nih tak ze svoia strategiia i taktika, no kommissionnye gorazdo vyshe.

Primerno, ka art diller: vy pokupaete u nego, on zarabatyvaet, vy prodaiote cherez nego on zarabaryvaet, a vash dohod /ubytok eto vash ... (uprostil do primitiva )

Removed broker "And yet finished at the office a couple of suggestions.
Actually, I'm writing about this - pros (in this case the broker) always earn.

The way, in support of versions of the root cause of yield investment markets: monkey beat control

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от artcol

Removed the broker
And finished in that position a couple of suggestions.

Soglasen ponost'iu, zal 'nel'sia eschio raz "spasiboi" postavit'.

[artcol]

Сообщение от sergejnowo

Meister, support your point of view.
Discussing /call to a particular type of investment money, not taking a while for their words /advice /recommendations of any responsibility, it is not wise. The last couple of years, many of those who invested in property, shares, securities or art progareli to the nines. Something about this and that very few people wrote. Investments often turn malopredskazuemuyu apiece. What is already forgotten as money in bank accounts frozen, and then how to received 5000 rubles (Zhiguli price at the time) with sorrow bought a Snickers? Yes these ambushes darkness. Nobody knows how and what will be the day after.
By Suteev its range of one divorce and the exact time when another burst bubble, they know only Initiation.

You write everything correctly. Not rezyumiruete for some reason.
The risk of investment is an inverse correlation with the ability to influence the market (or the decisions that affect the market ). The less you have such opportunities - the greater your risk. But if you compare with other players in the art market - that your position is not so weak. Art-market for the powerful is not essential, purely symbolic. MB is still, therefore, the art market - the most democratic of all the markets (as he wrote AleksandrG - the last unregulated market). Therefore, it can play a private person and frustrate scoop. But all this is very hypothetical

[sergejnowo]

Сообщение от artcol

Do not rezyumiruete for some reason.

Summary of a generalized conclusion of the "built" on the basis of this source of a given situation, personal and social experience and intuition.
Base source data, if not ironic at all different. An event different people perceive it differently.
Therefore, such a "personal" but a summary of the dispute and deceit to nothing. But to argue and deceive I have no desire.
Example on "investment in the old masters." In this section, the forum, with rapture laid out the data on one or another of the great classics for the sale of $ 3,000,000 or even $ 10,000,000. Yet nobody analyzes.
Who bought? An individual or a museum or a financial structure?
Why buy? Investment, washing money or museum exhibit?
Where is the money Zine? Own or others? Maybe with the drug or from the sale of weapons?
What is the historical and artistic value is precisely this work?
And in general, for the first 20 classics from the old masters, well, quite impossible to draw conclusions about the state of the market under the name of the "old masters"
Who here on the forum in a position to lay out 10 lemons?
I am sure even the tough guys from Gazprom are not ready for such feats.
That's me to the fact that these amounts are not an indicator of the market. In essence, the price of 98%of the market "old masters" have fallen.
So it turns out that the one who draws on original data from the media and bluntly, without analysis, accepts them for the truth has a "phony" base source data.