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[ksp]

Сообщение от Amateur

artist, possibly Dutch, like the flag on the ship.

Amateur, you're right, in the history of the paintings, indeed, is a Dutch "footprint". In the 19th century. sister of one of the residents of St. Petersburg was married to a resident of Holland. According to the stories and pictures from there.
I do not know whether the value that are arranged vertically rather than horizontally.

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Question for the better outside of Russia to the editor of Russian texts: why in, not in Drouot?

In Drouot for this picture and can not give 50 euros. I remember on canvas "In the city Sednev" T. Yablonska was there sold for 30 euros, and then resold in London for more than 3000 pounds.

Flag on the first picture seems to French or Italian, but the second seems to be depicted Venice, but these circumstances, strictly speaking, does not indicate the nationality of the artist. With a name like that could be British, Italian, Dutch, German, French, Swiss, and Belarusian with Estonians, not to mention the Russian or Ukrainian.

With regard to the substantive questions asked, then the artistic (aesthetic) the contents of both works tends to zero. This is a sample of so-called souvenir production and price it according to circumstances, may be in the range from 50 to 500 euros. If suddenly shlestnutsya at auction two rare collector such veshchichek (and do not just collect people!), Here you are and get the best price for your plate.
 If, of course, this purchase will be paid.

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Сообщение от ksp

I do not know whether the value that are arranged vertically rather than horizontally.

Then it is French.

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For "souvenirs" 19c. can offer the money - a pair of works being prepared for sale.

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Сообщение от ranzher

Question for the better outside of Russia to the editor of Russian texts: why in, not inDrouot?

So to speak.
At Sotheby's, at Christie at Drouot.

Can and Drouot.

Well jargon. They say the same: "He worked at the company for Tupolev.

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Сообщение от Guriev, Igor

At Sotheby's, at Christie at Drouot

At the auction, in short.
In Russia, too, saying: Gelos, on Sovkome.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

At the auction, in short.

Difficulties adapting to the Russian , but we have to somehow distinguish

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That's right, at auction. These names - the names of auctions as certain organizations. In France, these enterprises have traditionally continued to be called sketches. However, Drouot or better Drouot Hotel is only a building with relevant staff, where most of these studies and conducting auctions. And once these premises, then in Russian would be correct to speak and write at the Hotel Drouot, at Drouot, for brevity.

[Игорь Гурьев]

Сообщение от ranzher

That's right, at auction. These names - the names of auctions as certain organizations. In France, these enterprises have traditionally continued to be called sketches. However, Drouot or better Drouot Hotel is only a building with relevant staff, where most of these studies and conducting auctions. And once these premises, then in Russian would be correct to speak and write at the Hotel Drouot, at Drouot, for the sake of brevity.

Theoretically, this is so, but who also distinguishes between these "studies"?

At Drouot.

The Hotel Drouot.

[ksp]

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