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Old 16-03-2010, 21:17 Original language: Russian        #1121
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And me personally - is not clear. Why are literally all my friends and I stopped growing. They worked, developed, had done everything correctly and consistently, and everything? Two tys.u.e.? What? Why? Once thought that the step by step and will go on, but no. Just Stop! What next? What not do - nothing! Look here: http://www.art-auction.ru/painters_d...354fbf26904167, pictures are not sold. And the same with me and many others. Dilets need to move forward, people need! I am ready to pay much more interest for the sake of a man than written above.
Artem, need not businessmen, and the situation when the picture could change back to the money after buying a man of business. The owner could quickly sell the picture and return the money.




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Old 16-03-2010, 21:29 Original language: Russian        #1122
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Artem, need not a businessman, and the situation where the picture can be rotated back to the money after buying a businessman. The owner could quickly sell the painting and return the money.
Pavel, honestly, Nifiga not understand! What questions about the return? If you have something taken away, then never returned. You fly! "Who would you change, return, something to think? Is that a man who just loves you. And in general, change the avatars on this, it will be pleasant to communicate.
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does not need a businessman, and the situation where the picture can be rotated back to the money after buying a businessman. The owner could quickly sell the painting and return the money.
Paul, you have a constant refrain heard this idea, but to me somehow does not reach, as you imagine a mechanism? (Separately, still does not reach, why the buyer to change the picture of her back to the money, except for some extreme cases - children to "exchange", if they have no taste)

In the European gallery, the idea can work again put up for sale. I'm not sure, but with the exchange of a previous purchase with a new surcharge, to my surprise, had to face. So what do you mean? Reconsideration of the paper are for sale in the gallery? So it's probably not a problem. Another thing that new buyer nobody progarantiruet.




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Old 16-03-2010, 22:33 Original language: Russian        #1124
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So what you have in mind?
Buy now from the artist, then hand over to the auction, get a lot of money to buy three paintings up for auction again, and so on and so forth
You do not know the main idea of Pavel as well?
The idea is: "So become millionaires, see Drouot!"



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Old 17-03-2010, 00:49 Original language: Russian        #1125
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Paul, you have a constant refrain heard this idea, but to me somehow does not reach, as you imagine a mechanism? (Separately, still does not reach, why the buyer to change the picture of her back to the money, except for some extreme cases - children to "exchange", if they have no taste)
 Paul says about likvidnost.T.E. ability, as quickly as possible, to draw the asset (in this case now) in dengi.Zhelatelno with minimal losses. If such an opportunity will be, the market will become more and more investors (read: customers), respectively, and then prices go up and the number of sales increase.
Auctions, except for direct sales, promote transparency and regulation of the market, which in turn should lead to an influx of new players.
 A motive to sell now or even part of the collection can be set, from the banal: "want to eat, to a simple desire to change something in their collection.




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Paul, spoke about likvidnost.T.E. ability, as quickly as possible, to draw the asset (in this case now) in dengi.Zhelatelno with minimal losses. If such an opportunity will be, the market will become more and more investors (read: customers), respectively, and then prices go up and the number of sales increase.
Auctions, except for direct sales, promote transparency and regulation of the market, which in turn should lead to an influx of new players.
 A motivation to sell now or even part of the collection can be set, from the banal: "want to eat, to a simple desire to change something in their collection.
 There are also intelligent people.
Just wanted to add that the auction should be independent and domestic.




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Paul says about likvidnost.T
Since this problem can be solved only for myself.
If Paul's heart aches for all of Russia, then nothing happens.
 In Moscow, where prior to any auction can be reached by subway, you can, I think, make plans and step by step achieve impressive results.
I'm here, though, when I found this forum, all the contrary, said that the artist should not be on their own to try to infiltrate the auction house, which may be counterproductive. Well then you can not on its own to try (if you want).
After thinking and comparing, came to the conclusion that should "just " sell the picture (good) art-dealer (reliable) somewhere for half the price at which normally sell for. Moreover, Art 10-20, probably, not less. In theory, the ice would start off

And, if I understood correctly, if there is at least a few good results, the question of "liquidity" (well, and the term!) Can be considered as well, if not closed, at least - open to positive solutions.




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Since this problem can be solved only for myself.
If Paul's heart aches for all of Russia, then nothing happens.
 In Moscow, where prior to any auction can be reached by subway, you can, I think, make plans and step by step achieve impressive results.
I'm here, though, when I found this forum, all the contrary, said that the artist should not be on their own to try to infiltrate the auction house, which may be counterproductive. Well then you can not on its own to try (if you want).
After thinking and comparing, came to the conclusion that should "just " sell the picture (good) art-dealer (reliable) somewhere for half the price at which normally sell for. Moreover, Art 10-20, probably, not less. In theory, the ice would start off

And, if I understood correctly, if there is at least a few good results, the question of "liquidity" (well, and the term!) Can be considered as well, if not closed, at least - open to positive solutions.
Right. and if do not receive anything, do repetitive or just give repetitions, etc. Here is your idea to you and push clever dealers. Even better podarit.Luchshe for them.
Showing and selling and all.



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said that the artist should not be on their own to try to infiltrate the auction house,
 Auctions basically conducting when there is a shortage of paintings, art objects. What is the point to take to auction, for example, the work of Paul, when they can easily buy from the artist? and with a great Discount .. same thing and still works with 90%of contemporary artists.
 But there are modern writers for works whose turn is (here cited dozens of examples) ... here are the authors interested in any auction house.




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basically conducting the auctions where there is a shortage of paintings, art objects. What is the point to take to auction, for example, the work of Paul, when they can easily buy from the artist? and with a great Discount .. same thing and still works with 90%of contemporary artists.
 But there are modern writers for works whose turn is (here cited dozens of examples) ... here are the authors interested in any auction house.
This is understandable. But, on the one hand, why should an artist to spoil his reputation, and sell a "great Discount", if there is a chance to sell at auction and get a double bonus?
I think this is only if there are any internal problems (unintelligible non-specialist), with auction sales, and the artist needs money.
And as the queue is also understandable. However, do not immediately turn them lined up? Some chain of events that led to the same.

But I just wanted to understand what kind of idea-fix from Paul. Now, like I understood. This is from the idyllic world.



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