How to unleash the artist

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

What's that? This is like?

And just like that! Here the principle - what I want so much and put. And you buy and resell, but then again resell ... Enrich. (Especially when bought on ...

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

127 000 USD

, then ran into a price

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

65 000 USD

) But I think it will be no laughing matter ...

[Семен Семенович]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Or the truth is not understood, or (again!) Itching to do it, without taking on life is not a joy?

Nat! The whole point is not in a fight, I think. And that if these fundamental issues artists and galereisty can not agree, how is it possible to shape the market. So it turns out that all continue to stew in its own juice "...

[Pavel]

Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

First of all, a gallery owner, person in possession of information, to participate in the market and shapes ... So only they set the price on the market. If the market does not accept the established price, then make a mistake at work, especially galereista. And the factors of error quite a lot ...
But this .... must deal with administrators.
And you think that pricing should be dealt with disinterested person?

Semen Semenovich, I have said many times, and I repeat that pricing should be dealt with concerned people at a public auction, public auction because the price must be credible to him. Interested people are those who sell and those who buy. The more of these citizens more confidence to get prices.
All of these things, we come here sir, sir, will judge us, lead to the current low prices and lyrics. low activity of buyers. They will not believe and prefer, or keep to yourself or do not overspend.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Here and sort things out here ...

This is the current situation, those prices are not falling and they just do not believe. This is not tseny.Tseny set at auction. Even between dvoimi always bargain. This is what explains not necessary?

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Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Yes on ÀðòÍàó all prices, from the lantern "(specificity)

Pavel. expensive. tell ca namilost. I what else can I do in my "muhosranske? (As the saying goes: "According clothes stretch one's legs "...)

Nath I looked and saw the number of messages 999, well I think ... and miss, and then look at your next message, then you should be lucky, and I always like .

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Сообщение от Semen Semenovich

And just like that! Here the principle - what I want so much and put. And you buy and resell, but then again resell ... Enrich. (Especially when bought on ..., then ran into a price ) But I think it will be no laughing matter ...

That's it! Persuaded, and went to change prices.

[noart]

Сообщение от missart

say, and you can make the artist was in the top hundred of the best artists? And in general - as they get into these ratings? All thanks to those who have their spins?

Yes, absolutely you are right. All course moves financial base and as an artist makes rating and price also finance. In the past 10 years, not even important, he knows how to create art or not. The main financial side and the people who will accumulate a

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от noart

All of course moves financial base and as an artist makes rating and prices also finance.

But there is still some way to create a rating?
The very top is a tool for rapid assessment of the works of one or another of the author and it is based on sales of paintings, this is a market tool.

[noart]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

And there is still some way to create a rating?
The very top is a tool for rapid assessment of the works of one or another of the author and it is based on his paintings, this is a market tool.

And I, for some reason I naively thought that first of all need the talent of the artist. Although the last couple three years, shows the fact that it is not important))

[Seriy]

The more I get acquainted with artrynkom, the greater are growing stronger in the belief that determines the price is not a buyer-seller-t e for how many take for so much and sell, and the artist plus the dealer. If the dealer determines the price of 100 thousand dollars and buy up all attempts to sell up to 1 thousand, then on the market, this artist will cost 100 thousand, as the other proposals will not be.
Today learned that Picasso was a dealer Paul Rosenberg. After the death of Picasso at the Picasso family had accumulated tens (figure shown in the exhibition, I can make mistakes, but very many) thousand units of works. Probably the same amount from Mr. Rosenberg. No hurry to saturate the market works by Picasso, to balance the demand. Rosenberg sold at the price at which it is necessary and as long as it saw fit. Who can not buy-walks.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от noart

And I, for some reason I naively thought that first of all need the talent of the artist.

There is talk about the rating, the value of the price of money, finally, as you say, "talent".
Talent can not be measured, such a tool has not yet figured out what had often said in their subjects AlexanderG, but everyone will be able to count money.

[Seriy]

I was always occupied, as in this performance of his works by Pablo market collapsed. And at the forum asked this question, but in response-silence.
And the answer-Rosenberg. The same pattern as for trade in diamonds-diamonds-no free market, the surplus formed in a sack and waiting for better times. There was no public statistics. Full monopoly. Would you like Picasso? cook a million and go to Mr. Rosenberg. And everybody knows-Picasso cheaper million does not happen.

[noart]

Сообщение от Seriy

The more I get acquainted with artrynkom, the greater are growing stronger in the belief that determines the price is not a buyer-seller-t e for how many take for so much and sell, and the artist plus the dealer. If the dealer determines the price of 100 thousand dollars and buy up all attempts to sell up to 1 thousand, then on the market, this artist will cost 100 thousand, as the other proposals will not be.
Today learned that Picasso was a dealer Paul Rosenberg. After the death of Picasso at the Picasso family had accumulated tens (figure shown in the exhibition, I can make mistakes, but very many) thousand units of works. Probably the same amount from Mr. Rosenberg. No hurry to saturate the market works by Picasso, to balance the demand. Rosenberg sold at the price at which it is necessary and as long as it saw fit. Who can not buy-walks.

Yes, very much depends on the person who is engaged in promotion of a painter. As they say in whose hands are on your right.