Dying frescoes by Andrei Rublev!

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The frescoes of Andrei Rublev are in churches. These buildings are the churches restored to the state of the ROC.
Andrei Rublev same ROC was canonized in 1988 in face of the Venerable.
I do not go to church, from Vladimir and Zvenigorod live far away and no money or public authorities for the restoration will not give, or so used. ROC.
Let the patriarch at the helm of Russia asking for money, they are there budget money famously despise or at least its clock at least sell. They had 30 tons euros worth. To begin the restoration enough, I think.

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

Position Cyril Syzran is typical for the layman, whose main credo: "My Brothers' Keepers do not know anything!

About Syzran I would not say that he "... did not know"
Yes, and about the hut "on the edge" also by

Shl There's credo: "Do not trust, do not be afraid, do not ask!"

[artcol]

Сообщение от K-Maler

If the president wants to help, he naytet couple of oligarchs, so they are benefactors, this is now done. No other way. Why is only applied to Medvedev? There is a new patriarch, activities not refuse to talk with his flock in public through the media. Eats the portal site. What can now be subscribed to? From what means? The Apostle Paul said: "You can not talk about religion with hungry .."

http://www.consultant.ru/online/base...XP; n = 471631

So, the public is enough to record the fact and to raise the information wave. And the money will come.

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I do not believe in pure altruism. assume that the forum participants to chip in money. First, it will not be quite so large a sum, because, as participants are not very many. Then, Cyril human .... who will take the money? Secondly how do you make sure where and what they go? Maybe next to the murals spend money to build a house? In any case, Ukraine is very often that happens in Russia do not know how ....

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

artcol, I draw conclusions based on what has been written Cyril Syzransky. I react to what he wrote. And you are making your approval on the basis of what? From his personal feelings? Sympathy is nice, but not about them now, speech, and that nobody in Russia is not the case before Russia culture! And above all its citizens!

So why all the same "past"? And why would you not say that he "... did not know"? If you already have written, explain. It is interesting to understand! Can I change my mind ...

1. Does it make sense to move to a discussion of personalities on this forum? After the disappearance of some participants, I see decent people, and I had enough.

2. Sympathy has nothing to do with it, just in this matter I agree with K. Syzransky. Why? Confine such an explanation: I do not like the helpless pathos (especially if treatment begins with the words "Let's ...!"). For me, word=(equal) cause. Start with yourself, answer for yourself, but there may be other and catch up. If Maroussia wrote that she had already sent their 1000 rubles (or dollars /euros), because she knows personally the people involved in the restoration (or something more there) and ready to vouch for them, the question was to "Writing money or no? And all would be weighed its possibilities, RESPONSIBILITY AND interest. And in another way - it is is not serious ...

3. Personally, I have to do with my the cultural environment. And I do this in the best of their ability and capability to engage (if that - I am a citizen of Russia).

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

The position of Cyril Syzran is typical for the layman, whose main credo: "My Brothers' Keepers do not know»!

Сообщение от Tjutchev

So do not go to the individual! This is exactly what you and I call!

Tjutchev, you have already decided: either to discuss the COP or to get personal ...

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

Personally, I am against raising money. It is not appropriate in this case. But to be passive in this matter impossible. Need to write about it, participate in pickets, etc. etc .... In general, to demonstrate their citizenship as a minimum!

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So do not go to the individual! This is exactly what you and I call! What do you mean Cyril Syzransky? I am writing because it is not about him but about his position. And this is the position of millions of citizens! That's the trouble then! And are you talking about? Did not explain ... What do you want to say?

You're right: you can not be passive in our climate. You can freeze and die "But to be overly active in our climate, too, can not - can be much sweat and a cold again - die That's why the Russian people, and sensible degrees, in contrast to southern of people, where climate is less severe

Shl Do you live in Russia or not? It is strange that you - the man has to explain such things.

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Сообщение от Tjutchev

But to be passive in this matter impossible. Need to write about it, participate in pickets, etc. etc .... In general, to demonstrate their citizenship as a minimum!

Here you have it, and have demonstrated - some people clearly identified their views on the issue.
Property ROC must engage itself ROC. At its whether the means, the means of a state, that's how they succeed.
As for me - I am opposed in principle to finance this from the state treasury.

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Сообщение от artcol

You're right: you can not be passive in our climate. You can freeze and die But to be overly active in our climate, too, can not - can be much sweat and a cold again - die .

It's time to open the forum "Netlenku "<!- - ~ 7 ~-->

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Сообщение от Berth

As for me - I am opposed in principle to finance this from the state treasury.

For me - it is better from the treasury. And it will make more to pay "tithes" to charity case
And like a nation-wide cultural property. Ie by other departments. But churchmen because the drum - write a new, sanctified, and that's that.

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Сообщение от artcol

And like a nation-wide cultural property. Ie by other departments. But churchmen because the drum - write a new, sanctified, and that's that.

We must simply select the unwanted property. Build it next to a big metal hangar. And let the replica bought. All noneshnim painters - order.