Is it possible to create and develop the art market without kommodifikatsii art?

[Seriy]

wharf, there is less than artists, if not more. And there will have to do the same as here - the creation of a brand new product.

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Seriy

About poverty Transcarpathia would not speak, but changed his mind. We are building a cottage, the teams are changing, including in Transcarpathian region, with Western Ukraine. Basic Salary Workers - 1000 dollars a month, the master of getting more. Workers, even unskilled workers, for 300 dollars does not exist. Just take a shovel and dig-cube want now 100 g (450-500 rubles), 5.7 cubic meters per day, especially without straining.
It is not in poverty.

Yeah, poverty in Transcarpathia - a separate issue. Who here has not been not understand.
Enough to visit this town as Solotvyno and look at houses there. I saw a lot of things, but the luxury of those houses I was surprised .... and build them for themselves those rabotchie that you are digging the ground in Moscow. They marble veneer exterior walls, doors in the homes of 5000 dollars., About the gardens silent .... A picture is still on the $ 100. buy more expensive-ever ))))))

[Seriy]

Veronic, do not sell the man in the street now, he is its still not buy or will buy exactly 5 cents after your tremendous efforts.
We are building a dacha near Kiev, so I'm talking about Kiev prices, domestic Ukrainian.

[AlexanderG]

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Vooot.
Output for the artist is. But he is not in one-off exhibitions. And not even to some extent regular, but still not permanent.

Sovershenno verno, neobhodimo postoiannoe prisutstvie kartin. Hudoznik mozet periodicheski priezzat 'na otkrytiia.

Alas, it seems this is the case when the output in the transfer of production closer to the consumer .

Kollega, horosho izlagaete

Emigrate for permanent residence, nafikk

"Ne znaiu o chiom vy govorite, no ehat 'nado "

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Сообщение от Seriy

About poverty Transcarpathia would not speak, but changed his mind. We are building a cottage, the teams are changing, including in Transcarpathian region, with Western Ukraine. Basic Salary Workers - 1000 dollars a month, the master of getting more. Workers, even unskilled workers, for 300 dollars does not exist. Just take a shovel and dig-cube want now 100 g (450-500 rubles), 5.7 cubic meters per day, especially without straining.
It is not in poverty.

Ni razu v svoei praktike ne prodal kartinu chernorabochemu . Uveren, rynok ot nih ne zavisit.

[L-ana64110]

Since I had to frequently change their place of residence and to adjust to the environment \\ it was necessary to survive \\ I can share svimi findings on the demand for hard in different cities and countries.
In the middle zone of Russia preferred landscapes in the style a la Shishkin, nearer to large cities, the same landscapes have a la French impresionizm transposed to our huts and endless puddles on the roads, the south is a marina and still lifes,,,,
 Germany is interested in strict naturalism, the French-abstraction and the various distortions, the Italians are processed academism medieval to modern fashion, the Americans, it is realism and sur including,,,
but on pricing - foolish to sell their goods cheaply in the city of H, if they can sell expensive in M, the question of the notorious Russian laziness,, bird in the hand and two in the bush, from the same opera,

[Seriy]

AlexanderG, namely, what have doctors, teachers and workers? Let's have a pension in Russia voiced and how it affects the art market.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Seriy

do not have to sell the philistine

Klassifitsiruite obyvatelia, pozaluista. Kto takoi obyvatel '?

[Причал]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

 Kartiny v samom nizu

Alas. "At the bottom" may be quite different values. Music, traveling, theater, designer outfits ....
I would not count on the fact that all people who have attained a certain well-being, will spend money on is art, as we would not want .

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Seriy

AlexanderG, namely, what have doctors, teachers and workers? Let's have a pension in Russia voiced and how it affects the art market.

Est 'takoe poniatie "target audience", tselevaia auditoriia.

Kartiny chasche vsego pokupaiut liudi s vysshim obrazovaniem, ot 35 do 60 let.
Vkliuchaiutsia i drugie parametry.
Poetomu vsegda nado eto uchityvat '.

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Сообщение от Seriy

AlexanderG, namely, what have doctors, teachers and workers? Let's have a pension in Russia voiced and how it affects the art market.

Very, very, very got to talk about elitism of the target audience of fine art.
Somehow all forget that the Medici Tretyakov and other Mammoth bought Leonardo Repin, Surikov.

Steelmaker kollichestvenno too up fuck and many of the oligarchs at all is not enough.

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Сообщение от Seriy

wharf, there is less than artists, if not more. And there will have to do the same as here - the creation of a brand new product.

'll Have to-have. Do not even doubt. But there is a wide range of consumer, as the real and potential.
But "there the" competitors can move .

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

"Ne znaiu o chiom vy govorite, no ehat 'nado "

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Сообщение от AlexanderG

Ni razu v svoei praktike ne prodal kartinu chernorabochemu . Uveren, rynok ot nih ne zavisit.

I once wanted to buy a painting from the exhibition (repairs done in the next pomeschenii0 most authentic Tajik - the builder (not young and do not exclude that in some there the higher education).
I suggested 4000 rubles. The picture was worth 12 000 .