Case of "pornography" in PinchukArtCentre

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Marta

And then I would be in his place to hell in photoshop is attached instead of what is open to all.

Therefore, you in the right place, but he is completely on the other .. in the artistic hierarchy ..

[Veronic]

Сообщение от Eugene

Veronica, I just do not know you .. Personally for you, a little interesting .. (I liked the article )..

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And I do not understand. I really said that all photographers are doing porn? It was about one photo in Arttsentre Pinchuk, who claims to be a work of art, and the public believes that this is porn. Even more, I believe that we can portray sexual organs, but they will not look gone (as in Courbet's painting), but here is a clear vulgarity, which wants to become an art.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от Marta

Ruslan Vashekevich, the work of "Angel"

Was at the exhibition "New Angelarium" in the MMSI in 2007.

[uriart]

Dear Veronic,!
In my opinion, the philistine, such artists and photographers have been, are and will be!
They simply have nothing more to say so they take off their genitals, or draw.
They're just not know how else!
And this (genitals) only! Dali maiden $ 100 for a demonstration and the masterpiece is ready!
And then talk about it - a dime a dozen!
Zhurnalyugi of all stripes will spend too much time and savor as well.
You just need to keep quiet about it and not give them the opportunity to enjoy their "masterpieces".
And when the public says about this, then, we are giving them a foothold and they are approved in their "art"

[artcol]

Сообщение от Veronic

and the public thinks

The public is at least divided in opinion on this issue. A clearly believes that this instance of the exhibition of art, porn - Ukrainian officials, the first saw there a political subtext, and decided propiaritsya.

Shl Actually very was surprised that forumchan views on this question.

ZYY officials also are different. That's me on the history of the film "Borat."

The film of the English comedian Sacha Baron Cohen's "Borat" has boosted the flow of foreign tourists in Kazakhstan, said Minister of Tourism and Sports of the Republic Temirkhan Dosmukhanbetov, Interfax reports.

According Dosmukhanbetov only by the Ministry in 2006 in Kazakhstan arrived journalists from 18 countries to check on it really all the way in the film. "I think that even the negative information gives a certain advantage. Only" - he said at a press conference in Astana.

"The Stream 'stay in Kazakhstan is increasing annually, particularly for the 9 months of this year, the number of tourists has increased by 31,5%(compared to the same period last year), and the number of visitors reached more than 3.9 million people," - said Minister. "Probably, - he added - this film, and other factors contributed to this figure".

[Posav]

Сообщение от uriart

Dear Veronic,!
In my opinion, the philistine, such artists and photographers have been, are and will be!
They simply have nothing more to say so they take off their genitals, or draw.
They're just not know how else!
And this (genitals) only! Dali maiden $ 100 for a demonstration and the masterpiece is ready!
And then talk about it - a dime a dozen!
Zhurnalyugi of all stripes will spend too much time and savor as well.
You just need to keep quiet about it and not give them the opportunity to enjoy their "masterpieces".
And when the public says about this, then, we are giving them a foothold and they are approved in their "work"

Here you're a little wrong. That such work because the style of such a direction. Sots Art as a trend no one disputes the hope. Any of them could take a picture of the classical landscape, portrait or the artists write, for example, landscape with birch trees, or cornflowers in the pitcher. Another thing when the work goes beyond certain limits and violated some moral standards. Although when these rules were violated with respect to other individuals, but not this image of Ukraine, then did not notice that you, Veronic, is worried.

[Артём]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

"at the photographer" a "track record" that he had some "noisy public relations campaign" is not needed.

I think a PR campaign it is just and necessary. Not great in his record. Two solo exhibitions of all else.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Posav

Here you are a bit wrong. That such work because the style of such a direction. Sots Art as a trend no one disputes the hope.

Sots Art - one of the areas of postmodern art that has emerged in the USSR in 1970 under the so-called alternative culture in opposition to the state ideology of the period.

Sots-art originated as a parody of the official Soviet art and images of modern mass culture as a whole, as reflected in its ironic name, uniting the concepts of Socialist Realism and Pop Art. Pop art was a reflection of commodity overproduction and abundance of the western world, and the object of Sots Art is the overproduction of ideology in the USSR. Also some influence on social art had conceptualism.

By using and assimilating the odious cliches, symbols and images of Soviet art and the motives of the restructuring of the Soviet political campaigning, social art in the game, often shocking form, discredited their true meaning, trying to liberate the viewer from the ideological stereotypes. Irony, the grotesque, the acute substitution, free quotations, the use of various forms (from painting to spatial compositions) formed the basis of flashy, eclectic artistic language of this trend.

Inventors of Sots Art considered Moscow artists Vitaly Komar and Alexander Melamid, around which the second half of 1970 formed the circle of artists who share their views and beliefs. In the years to unite the adjoining Alexander Kosolapov, Leonid Sokov, Dmitry Prigov, Boris Orlov, participating art groups "Nest" and "Destroying". Sots Art unite different in its manner of authors. By the end of the 1990 social art has exhausted itself, because of the changing political situation meaningful basis of this art has become irrelevant.

Ishodia iz etogo opredeleniia, eto chistyi plagiat (ot perestanovki stran ideia ne meniaetsia), i on uze ne suschestvuet, dumaiu i interesa k etomu net.
Mogu oshibat'sia .

[Posav]

AlexanderG, not a bad statement. Wikipedia? If Wikipedia, you can write an article there by anyone. About what social art has lost its relevance and disappeared with the Soviet Union, I think, not quite true. What do you call when all of these modern works from Gelman, Plutsera, Pinchuk? On the west kontemporari they are not exactly alike. A wise man wrote that "social art is still here and fruitfully developed in the form of modern art." I have outlined for myself "old social art" since the Soviet Union and the "new social art" post-Soviet. Perhaps we can say that the prefix soc-now gained importance, not a socialist, but a social art. Although the figures referred to are rather watered-art.
Would like to hear about all this art terminology, or too early to organize?.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Posav

AlexanderG, not a bad statement. Wikipedia? If Wikipedia, you can write a story to go anyone.

Da, eto iz nee rodimoi. No eto to, chto ob etom techenii znaiut liudi.
Ia v etom ne spetsialist, kak ran'she uze govoril. Poskol'ku ia ne nashiol nikakogo drugogo obosnovaniia, to prinial eto.