Case of "pornography" in PinchukArtCentre

[Vladimir]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

Of course! (I explain to all those who do not understand how Veronique ..)

At the seminars, we do not delve into art history questions. Our main theme - money.

[hanzen]

Сообщение от NATA NOVA

hanzen, This is a quotation or to your text?

This is personally my creativity. As a graduate, ostepenenny high school teacher I know whereof I speak.

[noart]

[ QUOTE=Cyril Syzransky; 930651]offers artists parties discussions on this topic post here lists of exhibitions. And compare with a list of the author of the scandalous work.[/QUOTE]

Well, why do so immediately. It reminds hauling rope))))
This (the photographer) is completely devoid of, any of their ideas. The real plot plagiarist -.
Availability of all this tinsel, can not really reflect the real value of this photo Mazilu.

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от hanzen

This is personally my creativity. As a graduate, ostepenenny high school teacher I know what I'm talking

hanzen, how pleased I am that I am not mistaken ..

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Сообщение от Vladimir

At the seminars we will not delve into art history questions. Our main theme - money.

And this is even more interesting! (link to follow ..)

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Сообщение от noart

If you look objectively, that there really pure pornography ... ...

Not "pure" and "dirty" ;-)...

[noart]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Marta, "a photographer" a "track record" that he had some "noisy public relations campaign" is not needed.
It kind of stale bureaucratic nobodies popiaritsya wanted to, yes, it can be seen ...
I've been a former Minister of Culture, prohibits "Kissing Policemen" and the name of something yesterday could not remember. Who is he? Where is he? Where sunk this important statesman? But his face did not get away with years of news at the time of the scandal.
That will be in history just next to this picture Blue Noses ...

Bratkov waning and hide its weakness and lack of talent here under such vulgar images. Believe me it is not original, there is much to big-name idividum is Terry Richardson - so what?
With regard to the Blue Noses - it is an obvious plot plagiarism and this affects the bulk of our top geniuses))))

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от noart

Bratkov wane

And who does not wane with the man in the street point of view?
Or you about the identity of the author?
I do not understand, many have written, I feel resentment at the attitude in Ukraine, but are not caught.

Сообщение от noart

hide its weakness and lack of talent

«What gossips take to work,
Is not it better for themselves eh, godfather, turnover? "
She was Mischka replied. c)

[NATA NOVA]

Сообщение от hanzen

a momentary need, provoked by unsatisfied desires, resentment, emotional pain experienced by making adjustments to unpredictable, as in creative writing, and in thinking /reasoning.
That is why sometimes difficult to explain why a respected, recognized, successful artist /photographer throws extraordinary images, not inherent in his stories.

hanzen, let me clarify, you vyshenapisannogo relates specifically to the discussion paper discussed the artist?

[Marta]

I would understand more of this artist, well, at oh-very large N-and-a-grave, if we assume that this is a response to the election results in Ukraine. And then I would be in his place to hell in photoshop is attached instead of what is open to all. It turns out, he
"concept" - that, behold, it was Great Ukraine - take, who хошь. It generally must be something to offend national feelings. I would not want to see this place in Belarus. For this you can ... and, frankly, at stake. At least - in the press.
Well, to cite two examples of reflection on the boundaries.
First - Belarusian artist Ruslan Vashekevich, the work of "Angel" (could not find better quality, I apologize) - also caused a lot of questions - do not put on some our internecine Biennale for straddle "(Also there were many issues), put on alternative exhibition Not Last place of work at that time in a small gallery. But in the same issue, there is, for example, about a man wandering between two worlds - the spiritual and physical + very good, professional, ability to draw /write. But then - rather rudely, to my taste. Subject deeper than its embodiment.

Another example. Passed in the so-called Minsk Belarus pavilion 53 of the Venice Biennale, organized by the same Vashekevich, who, to his credit, his work is not exhibited - like, not in the format. So there was this exhibit: standing modestly in the corner of a cardboard box. Who observant enough to notice it and look inside, he could contemplate a monitor with video art - the tension in some sort of process for men, excuse me, and eggs. And, and here it is impossible to say that the theme for thought there. Eat. On that, for example, that people - this is two in one, one - external, representative, and possibly another in their box - something like the skeletons in the closet. Well, all waited with interest the results of the competition. Are the eggs will be your favorite? A competition has been nominated for two awards - the viewing and professional. So, prekdstavte, eggs nobody was impressed. And on both! won one project - a purely intellectual - the artist took somewhere around two hundred years, broke a simple box into segments (segment - year - who retired from the artist's life-Master) and each cell has invested all its associations. Perhaps the project is secondary. But people who have made their choice, he makes the honor. People go to trade shows in search of beauty, sublime, unusual, intelligent i.t.p., and if they need something of this, then they go to porn sites. Do not you?

[K-Maler]

Сообщение от LCR

and on the right to exist and show to the public.

Perhaps here the shoe pinches? right to exist and the right to show the public - different things? Courbet and his employer did not claim to "show", but in a narrow range of this thing, probably, was known ... Still, people in public law at the show "held a certain natural shyness, as they say sometimes" ashamed to be seen who ...", so says the people who are not peculiar to conformism ... I so imagining that what is not taken to make public (to defecate, for example), then that's a shame ... simple elementary ashamed to show ... The first act - shame: "Adam, where are you? - I am ashamed, because I was naked ... It's antiquity, which we think ...

[Евгений]

Сообщение от Veronic

Vyacheslav, I have repeated several times. I have nothing against porn, I have not, but everything has its place.
I just can not understand why this picture, a work of art, and the same photo on porn site - porn? Just do not please about toilet Duchamp and his philosophy.
Just tell me, maybe I'll understand.

Veronica, I just do not know you .. Personally for you, a little interesting .. (I liked the article) ..
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Photography for me - still more technical process than art. Self-expression, of course, too, but a lot happens by itself, due to technology. For example, the quality of the model manifest themselves, you are not planning to. Actually, as I said, talk about art and creativity - a thankless task. The more you try to articulate and explain these concepts, the worse it turns out. Inspiration or there, or not, it finds itself, I tried it on myself. Explain something useless. This is the same as talking about some vitally important things - friendship, love. Friends may not be much, and I think it's normal. With some people I'm friends for many years. Sometimes new people, often through the Internet. I can not explain why they are. Friends - because friends ".
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Сообщение от Marta

And then I would be in his place to hell in photoshop is attached instead of what is open to all.

Therefore, you in the right place, but he is completely on the other .. in the artistic hierarchy ..