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Старый 12.02.2010, 15:01 Язык оригинала: Русский       #811
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Here our new Director hudmuzeya prokatili ordinary members of the SC. Where, say, at least one publication with her, eh?
A guide Samara office and say something nothing can be, not today or tomorrow themselves re-elected. The Board has a new one. Members of the "bolder", after they have begun to take Money for workshops. Many have already slid out, nothing from the Union do not have and at meetings shaleyut from overbearing sense of liberation from dependence.
We also have a new director, not art and the artists he also went wrong . "He even tried to start with them to take money for tickets for admission to the museum, but the artists have written to the Ministry of Culture and he did ayayay.
Our alliance is still alive, his main weakness in the mass prirastanii worthless new members, and the only value - in the still almost free workshops.
I also only workshop attracted (we estdve-three per section art).
After retirement will be there to write his memoirs about the artists, erotic content little articles about long-gone by the time artists. Material volumes in thirty enough
Will mentorstvovat young hudozhikami.
All obovyus Cenon and umotayus batikovymi stoles shave nalyso and I'll smoke Belomor.

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wharf, THANK YOU !!!!!

In general, most performance I think hurts the artist more than helps
The artist does not hurt performance much, unless he pushes it out yourself artificially. And illiterate system of doing business. Just do not throw on the market is that there is much less in the same region.




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I have a friend graduate from Cambridge, so he once told me this phrase: "I can identify a person, his social class, his upbringing and his culture, only one gesture - as he opens the door and enters the room. " Then I was in shock and kept thinking about it, years passed and now I know that he is right.
The crowd is always a crowd, the fact that despite the national characteristics between individual representatives are always more similarities than differences
 Unfortunately - this is a magnificent delusion. Why, unfortunately - it would be excellent so determine, but I have to work with a lot of potential customers, strangers. Define once their status and culture-a key factor in obtaining money from them, especially because of the time limit. The only conclusion for years and the clouds clients to do this accurately is impossible, unless you just say "ebaut" and depend on the money. Staff are talking about it, but the first 3 months of not listening. Then he comes up with them that people in the mass-malouchityvaemy on the status and malopredskazuemy.



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Старый 12.02.2010, 15:16 Язык оригинала: Русский       #813
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Unfortunately - this is a magnificent delusion. Why, unfortunately - it would be excellent so determine, but I have to work with a lot of potential customers, strangers. Define once their status and culture-a key factor in obtaining money from them, especially because of the time limit. The only conclusion for years and the clouds clients to do this accurately is impossible, unless you just say "ebaut" and depend on the money. Staff are talking about it, but the first 3 months of not listening. Then he comes up with them that people in the mass-malouchityvaemy on the status and malopredskazuemy.
Absolutely agree. Very often, people with money are modest and a graduate of Cambridge think that bent too much.
In the Western world to enter into bargains hired expensive cars, rental villas and jewels, and let me ask you, as with the entourage can be calculated that a person has no money, and he rented it every couple of days to extract some profit?



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Старый 12.02.2010, 15:32 Язык оригинала: Русский       #814
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Sorry - this is a magnificent delusion. Why, unfortunately - it would be excellent so determine, but I have to work with a lot of potential customers, strangers. Define once their status and culture-a key factor in obtaining money from them, especially because of the time limit. The only conclusion for years and the clouds clients to do this accurately is impossible, unless you just say "ebaut" and depend on the money. Staff are talking about it, but the first 3 months of not listening. Then he comes up with them that people in the mass-malouchityvaemy on the status and malopredskazuemy.
     

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Absolutely agree. Very often, people with money are modest and a graduate of Cambridge think that bent too much.
In the Western world to enter into bargains hired expensive cars, rental villas and jewels, and let me ask you, as with the entourage can be calculated that a person has no money, and he rented it every couple of days to extract some profit?
     
Especially at the customs are commodities should be .. (verified)
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And the illiterate, the system of doing business. Just do not throw on the market is that there is much less in the same region.
"Ruining people is not beer, is ruining people's water!"



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Старый 12.02.2010, 15:52 Язык оригинала: Русский       #815
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Absolutely agree.
I Fed also absolutely agree. that can not be computed.

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let me ask, as with the entourage can calculate that a person has no money, and he rented it all a couple of days to extract some profit?
But also let me ask the artist from this calculation, unevaluated what good?
I know why this antiquary. I can assume what a gallery owner (in Ekatenrinburge, however, in all galleries except one, the fixed prices and they are shown on the price tags).

But why is the artist? He's as pure as a white lamb and was not eager to gain and excess-profits ()

How? He, too, puts the price directly proportional to the brand-machine prospective customer ?

And then a lucky getting the picture at a higher price boasting fellow collectors and collectors are not the same (they all boast, even those that have bought not just to brag - I know) and ....
So? What happens?
uh
He does not appear in the artist again, though promised to be such a prospective buyer?



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What's going on?
uh
He does not appear in the artist again, though promised to be such a prospective buyer?
Well, Sotbi's also raises prices and times, and still return to it. So answer your own words, is all the costs of marketing. A price considering the brand car buyers is extremely short-sighted. And that there are?



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I can identify a person, his social class, his upbringing and his culture, only one gesture - as he opens the door and walks into the room ".
You can not judge a man, only to one case, sometimes we all probably look very silly.



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How? He, too, puts the price directly proportional to the brand-machine prospective customer ?

And then a lucky getting the picture at a higher price boasting fellow collectors and collectors are not the same (they all boast, even those that have bought not just to brag - I know) and ....
Nevol'no shutku vspomnil:

Vstrechaiutsia dvoe. U odnogo shikarnyi galstuk i on hvastaetsia vtoromu; chistyi shelk, vchera z $ 500 kupil vot v etom magazine. Vtoroi: nu ty i kretin! Ia takoi ze kupil za uglom za $ 800!
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Старый 12.02.2010, 16:24 Язык оригинала: Русский       #819
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Well, Sotbi's also raises prices and times, and still return to it. So answer your own words, is all the costs of marketing. A price considering the brand car buyers is extremely short-sighted. And that there are?
Sotheby's got to do with it? They sell paintings and correspondence. It is certainly not put a price depending on the value of the client.

Or you just like Sotbisovskie prices and you would like to see and you were like that?
I also want to give me for buying so much. Just understand that this will never happen. Never - never is.

I have all this talk about sotbisovskie prices reminiscent of many times I have heard and vision (worked a bit in an antique shop) cases:

Deliverer comes with the subject of the assessment to ensure a quick sale.
He estimated he sells, receives the money. Then he goes into the hall.
And he sees that the same thing (in the world medalek, sugar and bronze a lot more similarities, and therefore the cases of the exponential), and so - he sees things the same just sold his subject.
oh, oh!! Why so much more expensive? Why was I deceived?
He ran back to the antiquary - how so?
If antiquarian good mood and views on further cooperation - it can even patiently explained that he was renting (which the artist could not even dream), payment of (I swear, it nekhilyy), communal, salary retailers, maintain the premises in proper condition, case is 10 times more ads than the subject and to have the whole shit. Yes and wait for what will sell the line.
And that easily deliverer (gyyy) can go to register, equip and open your own shop.

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Nevol'no shutku vspomnil:

Vstrechaiutsia dvoe. U odnogo shikarnyi galstuk i on hvastaetsia vtoromu; chistyi shelk, vchera z $ 500 kupil vot v etom magazine. Vtoroi: nu ty i kretin! Ia takoi ze kupil za uglom za $ 800!
It was about this joke and I was thinking when he penned the post

I have a feeling that most artists continues to think that they are dealing precisely with the new Russian.
And those long ago not to. All the money already potratiliyu Ties




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a graduate of Cambridge think that bent too much.
In the Western world to enter into bargains hired expensive cars, rental villas and jewels, and let me ask you, as with the entourage can be calculated that a person has no money, and he rented it every couple of days to extract some profit?
And what has this machine? jewelry? rented houses?
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I have a friend graduate from Cambridge, so he once told me this phrase: "I can identify a person, his social class, his upbringing and his culture, only one gesture - as he opens the door and enters the room ".
A person can determine the rights of way as he enters the room, and not on obovi in which he walks, and not on price list on his watch, for example. Not meet the already "in clothes", "to wit" and meet and see off.

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Well, Sotbi's also raises prices and times
This is the auctioneers 'brandishing' prices. Auction benefit just the low estimate.
The lower the start-the higher the maintenance.




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