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Старый 12.02.2010, 11:22 Язык оригинала: Русский       #791
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, reads the potential "raskruchivalschik" artists, I'm afraid he did not have an incentive to untwist it you ...
Here you just not deleting the first attack. When you wrote that traded radio, for me much clearer about what your comments and where to write up an artist in the painting and similar advice. The fact that you have read on the internet and remember the millions of names of artists did not lead you to understand what real art. Apparently convinced that understanding comes only after obtaining special art history education. Rhetorically ask the question what this art is that if people are changing the radio or housewives trading tomorrow under the guise of academic work will sell fashionable pattern with red Petushki, manipulated by artists to attack the current regime, called these paintings "they are sold."



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Старый 12.02.2010, 11:54 Язык оригинала: Русский       #792
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As for "potential raskruchivalschikov. I'm afraid, although I do something which "fear", no, I'm just convinced that the "potential raskruchivalschik will prefer to confine familiarity with these artists, the topic and did not even go to see pictures of these men of genius
It is surely to show no one rides.
That's it! (and it pleases!)
And most importantly, do not buy leads!
Just a strange way, when an artist somehow becomes famous Vsyakiki pocherushki his govnistye (on next morning) are gold ..
And forecasts "raskruchivalschikov" We have already seen (passed, we know: about Susie Boyle, weather Syzran example ..) It is not the first album released, and our esteemed still pavarotkaetsya ...

And in light of vyshenapisannogo no issues there about the ingestion of such investors, dealers falshakov, as well as why experts Sotheby them as much zaglotila 200 (or 300?-Not remember exactly ..)
With such eyes and wonder.

And the last. No, in order to strive to enrich each other, all in the child's illness defend with every fiber of my innocence slipping .. but why? Not that its energy goes .. fierce fight for his point of view, a form of narcissism (or, if for pavlinizma Tjutchev)

P.S. But the best thing (the air in vain to shake), let's get back to this subject ten years later and see who what what will sell (and who is doing what a bite would be ...) and that's that.
But then again, some la-la-poplar-belkantopavaroti and Krylov's fable ....




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Старый 12.02.2010, 12:04 Язык оригинала: Русский       #793
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I'll tell you about that I know, single (not because I know about the units, but because they have one) when the dream of the artist were sold and he had a lifetime shall obtain Papika raskruchivalschika and that this worked.

The case of the first, illustrative.


Artist N at the time of the meeting with his benefactor, was known for his cantankerous disposition, shocking behavior and self-reliant, not deprived, however, some curious and recognition kartinkkami.
His relations with a very big businessman X, available at the time a collection of very different-level work lined up so - Mr. X took his all available in the presence of (and like all self-taught artist N was extremely prolific). He took off his small apartment for an artist studio. Artist paid a monthly allowance of $ 1000 dollars to maintain his pants and receive ownership of all painted paintings (and made sure there were many), paying for them on 1000 Russian rubles per kazhduyu.Potom amount makes it possible for inflation increased slightly, it is not much
The artist had no right to sell the painting "left" and watched vigilantly for those special people (just went and kept account of the pictures).
Their relationship lasted about five years.
The artist of the total absence of stimulus is not something that grow inside yourself, to maintain a previous level, there was no reason. But amateur artists, and so dangerous for a potential sponsor that rarely retain the very "some interesting" any significant period of time. But the great artist's paintings have increased in size.
In the end, Mr. X to the eyeballs Zatar canvases. And now, it's great to dream of somewhere to sell. And preprinimaet some efforts to do so. Therefore, already free from the "yoke" the artist is very difficult to compete with Mr. X in their new works. Moreover, all of them, regardless of the owner of decent stuff in general something.


Hey, where are you? Do not run! right now would be even with a history ...



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Старый 12.02.2010, 12:12 Язык оригинала: Русский       #794
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Hey, where are you? Do not run! right now would be even with one story ...
Heed in 4 of the ear, wait for more!
Thank you, me all of your posts are extremely interesting!



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Старый 12.02.2010, 12:21 Язык оригинала: Русский       #795
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rhetorically ask the question what this art is that if people are changing radios or housewives trading tomorrow under the guise of academic work will sell fashionable pattern with red Petushki, manipulated by artists to attack the current regime, called the real picture "Those that are sold."
Эээээ, and that someone makes the great representatives of the High Arts to cooperate with such a puny masters ?

Or they begin to paint themselves cockerels /alas, start /? So it is already on their conscience

As a professional art critic, a big snob, while people living exclusively from sales of art objects has been many years - say:
Merchants art without art-education are able to sell much better than gallery owners, art critics. Because there is in fact the key to "sell", right? Artist because nobody forbids to be honest and hungry. In addition, many of the traders were still art education art history then.

And I am still learning to master Syzran penetrate nekhilyy this and not even very white envy



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Старый 12.02.2010, 12:40 Язык оригинала: Русский       #796
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And I am still learning to master Syzran penetrate nekhilyy this and not even very white jealousy
Yeah, sogdasna. walking encyclopedia, but he would still hand write and eye (figure, I mean, that was able to discern the absurdity of drawing)



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In addition, many of the traders were still art education art history then.
Yes (he loves to answer our sergejnowo),
and "artist N" from the "city with" me, perhaps a sign of his "creativity" or rather "and like all self-taught artist N was extremely prolific."



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But how times have I listened to the disc Pavarotti & Friends and sounds Panis Angelicus Franck, Pavarotti's duet with Sting ...... And here I am hearing talk of these types: "Yes, Pavarotti has passed .. . Dyhalka something not taaaa "," Not bad, "says another, no holds, suffocating ..."," Everything is not the same Pavarotti, or third, etc. ...... that the stuffed in patrol coats Pavarotti discussing here?

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will tell you something of his life, in 2001 I was at a concert Pavarotti and Friends he was ordained Afghanistan.
I remember the impression was very strong, the song dedicated to Caruso in the performance of Pavarotti and Bono - I even cried.
People had lots of in a radius of 2 km. there was no space for parking in the surrounding fields were the tents, because many young people came from England, France and Germany.
In Modena there is also a restaurant "Pavarotti" very elegant, one time we dined at a nearby table with Maestro



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iside, so you, as a former sovzhitel and sovsluzhitel , and then italozhitel, appreciated the absurdity of the situation, when the "watch-coats" of oblteatraoperyibaleta blather about the creative maestro.
There may be all you can hear, and the age and fatigue, and some notes there, but someone to talk about something, "who is talking?
It is not just quoting from a letter of Pushkin Vyazemsky, to quote again:

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The crowd eagerly reads the confession, notes etc., Because of his meanness happy humiliation high, the weaknesses of the mighty. When you open the squalor she is delighted. It is small, as we have, it is disgusting, as we! You are lying, scoundrels: he is small and disgusting - not like you - otherwise.



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Continuing

The history of the second, instructive /let alone for someone decides to cautionary one for himself in line with their interests

City Ekateninburg already loved artist S. And for that love had been established. Natural talent colorist, great performance, a wholly recognition. Considerable knowledge of the history of art. Absolute otherness anyone in the region. The sources of his inspiration and is not familiar to the audience, especially the Ural . Although .... I have something too praised him.
He already had many personal exhibitions. He himself was able to sell good paintings and even had something like an agent - a rich man, but active, and finished it very, very much help. And charge for this painting as a gift.
In general, the art-manager was in the hands ready and very tasty product - an artist ready to live in an era of change.

This art-manager, had come from afar, had some interest in art and was going to earn mostly just get the current and future profits from the promotion of the artist.
I generally liked their tandem. And the results were on the face.

Art Manager initially bought for their money (for the first few exhibitions) canvas and paint just an industrial scale. The artist gave many works to the mountain (by the way, creative enough for a sufficiently long period of time and it's amazing, in my opinion for a long time, do not overwrite).
Works well bought, mostly here in the city. Prices gradually, but not much growing up.
Profits from sales of their contract was to be divided into three equal parts. One part of the artist. Second art-manager. Third - to development.
On the development - this is for materials, rental of halls, transportation, arts, and art historians, etc. Art critics and journalists for PR were given pictures. Optional.
The artist is not forbidden in between large projects to write and sell the pictures "left" - customers, other managers, anyone. Artist's enough for everyone.
However, in preparation for the next project the artist would go fully to the work for him. At this time the "old" his work gradually sold the same agent as described in the beginning. New work ahead does not shine, preparing to hit the audience. And impressed. With fanfare and without commercial success was two huge exhibition in the local "mecca" - in the modern department of the Yekaterinburg branch of the State Museum of Fine Arts (in our branch of the very ")...

All went well, but the local market could not absorb such a number of works. And the price it was time podraschivat.
Thus began carting and exhibitions in Moscow, to rent rooms for the money, but some rooms have allowed, and for the painting.
And Peter. There commissioned articles well ооочень steep and necessary art historians. Their contacts. This is all done art-manager, of course.
Were built even more ambitious plans to conquer the universe.
In general, everything was kind-top and became one of the relatively short period.

But here the artist decided that the manager has to organize all this, its third, and 2 /3 should accrue to him. And in general, very much wanted to free.
He also demanded a divorce from the division of property.
Assets of the two recent projects, meanwhile, was the manager (he performed the function of storage). Therefore, the manager, not being able to gradually offset their spending money from selling on mutual terms of pictures, took something of a hundred works. All went through the disassembly of a law firm. So that's all there was legal.
Meneddzheru personally work were not needed - so he at once thrown into the art market in Yekaterinburg lot of work for very low prices (he was about to leave the city).
The artist has greatly decreased the number of sales and prices. Most nevazhnetskie still hang on the galleries to the public, adorning the walls of their modest price tags
a bigger part of the art-manager of the paintings sold very cheaply auction house (we have and the sort of thing - they sell mostly all crap cheap pictures a little bit of artists, with rare exceptions). But he maintains an active information policy - and we all know now that this artist can be purchased inexpensively.
Accordingly, it does not allow the artist to keep the brand.

Artists, make conclusions

A potential raskruchivalschiki "their findings have already done. This story in the city known to all. And no one wants to have anything to do in this area. Why would they postpone to a strange business ?


The third story will be later, I podvydohlas



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