Grabar? Name? Year? Any information on the work - Форум по искусству и инвестициям в искусство

uriart · 05.02.2010, 09:33

Cyril, 100%hit!

Gentlemen

I suggest not to waste time and effort to explain the stubborn people who exhibit obvious forgery while trying to prove the contrary.
I believe that without an explanation to write "fake or falshak" and does not enter into any discussion.
You all do not think that the right side looks like a pity, as it is justified for compelling reasons?
Personally, I have created this impression.
Explaining the essence of forgery, we thus give more information from the manufacturer fakes.
And then we are the lessons we are to blame, and even worse!

Vladimir · 05.02.2010, 13:21

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Explaining the essence of forgery, we thus give more information from the manufacturer fakes.
And then we are the lessons we are to blame, and even worse!

And experts give information in good faith, but naive buyers who now do not fall for "Grandma's a legend. Good advice is more important. And manufacturers falshakov somehow solve their problems themselves. In the end, it would require so much knowledge that production becomes unprofitable fakie.

BAGIRA · 05.02.2010, 16:45

Vladimir! Thank you very much! You rightly said. And it's not the obstinacy. I do not care, Grabar it or not. I have indeed acquired the work from others' hands with E-bay. If it is fake, then it is too old, and there is a lot of signatures. I am interested in the history of this work. Something tells me there have to dig. It is also interesting. Not everything is measured in money, Thank you.

BAGIRA · 05.02.2010, 18:02

Cyril!
Stubborn people who exhibit obvious forgery while trying to prove otherwise will not want to exactly do you spend time and effort to explain. In my opinion, anger at this site is not just appropriate. I can not say thank you.

Кирилл Сызранский · 05.02.2010, 18:07

BAGIRA, and where you are in my anger, they saw?

BAGIRA · 07.02.2010, 04:22

Cyril! I need to bring to you my apologies! An error has occurred because of my carelessness and inexperience using the site. This remark refers to the number 17 - uriart. Sorry. It is very important that you do. I'm new to this field. For two years, gathered a small collection for his son with a disability. I want it to be fully developed. In 2008, visited the Tretyakov Gallery, in raptures. Here in Florida, still writes essays that he had seen in the gallery. I catastrophically not enough time to look for info on what has already been purchased. Once again I apologize for the mistake. Not able to respond quickly because of illness. Sincerely, Maiga.

Евгений · 07.02.2010, 07:44

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I catastrophically not enough time to seek info on it,

Before you buy, the (future) ask for advice on the forum site about investing in art, you must prompt many interesnogo.Na through purchases antique paintings (novices) through an internet auction E-bay, a waste of money ...

uriart · 07.02.2010, 08:50

BAGIRA, you should not trust such dubious auctions.
Free cheese zaete where? That's right, it is there!
Ask before you buy and we will try to help. Least uberezhem from outright fakes.

BAGIRA · 07.02.2010, 21:02

Thank you, uriart! Now I agree with you, but I want to say that I do not have free cheese, unfortunately I paid dearly. But is not the point. On the same day (April 2008) I did not know about the existence of your site. Thanks for offer of assistance, be sure to use it. Unfortunately from the Russian works in the collection only Murtazin I.Kh. "Autumn", the rest is not ours. Will be time, gradually will consult with you. Thanks again for your kind words. Maiga.

05.02.2010, 16:45	Язык оригинала: Русский #3
BAGIRA Местный Регистрация: 04.02.2010 Сообщений: 129 Спасибо: 420 Поблагодарили 98 раз(а) в 32 сообщениях Репутация: 196	Vladimir! Thank you very much! You rightly said. And it's not the obstinacy. I do not care, Grabar it or not. I have indeed acquired the work from others' hands with E-bay. If it is fake, then it is too old, and there is a lot of signatures. I am interested in the history of this work. Something tells me there have to dig. It is also interesting. Not everything is measured in money, Thank you. Последний раз редактировалось BAGIRA; 05.02.2010 в 18:01. Причина: Добавлено сообщение

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05.02.2010, 09:33	Язык оригинала: Русский #1
uriart Banned Регистрация: 05.06.2008 Адрес: UKRAINE Сообщений: 8,039 Спасибо: 5,979 Поблагодарили 7,016 раз(а) в 2,462 сообщениях Репутация: 12460	Cyril, 100%hit! Gentlemen I suggest not to waste time and effort to explain the stubborn people who exhibit obvious forgery while trying to prove the contrary. I believe that without an explanation to write "fake or falshak" and does not enter into any discussion. You all do not think that the right side looks like a pity, as it is justified for compelling reasons? Personally, I have created this impression. Explaining the essence of forgery, we thus give more information from the manufacturer fakes. And then we are the lessons we are to blame, and even worse!

05.02.2010, 18:02	Язык оригинала: Русский #4
BAGIRA Местный Регистрация: 04.02.2010 Сообщений: 129 Спасибо: 420 Поблагодарили 98 раз(а) в 32 сообщениях Репутация: 196	Cyril! Stubborn people who exhibit obvious forgery while trying to prove otherwise will not want to exactly do you spend time and effort to explain. In my opinion, anger at this site is not just appropriate. I can not say thank you.

05.02.2010, 18:07	Язык оригинала: Русский #5
Кирилл Сызранский Гуру Регистрация: 26.07.2008 Адрес: РФ, Самара Сообщений: 75,397 Спасибо: 27,867 Поблагодарили 55,330 раз(а) в 24,283 сообщениях Записей в дневнике: 133 Репутация: 102390	BAGIRA, and where you are in my anger, they saw?

07.02.2010, 04:22	Язык оригинала: Русский #6
BAGIRA Местный Регистрация: 04.02.2010 Сообщений: 129 Спасибо: 420 Поблагодарили 98 раз(а) в 32 сообщениях Репутация: 196	Cyril! I need to bring to you my apologies! An error has occurred because of my carelessness and inexperience using the site. This remark refers to the number 17 - uriart. Sorry. It is very important that you do. I'm new to this field. For two years, gathered a small collection for his son with a disability. I want it to be fully developed. In 2008, visited the Tretyakov Gallery, in raptures. Here in Florida, still writes essays that he had seen in the gallery. I catastrophically not enough time to look for info on what has already been purchased. Once again I apologize for the mistake. Not able to respond quickly because of illness. Sincerely, Maiga.

07.02.2010, 08:50	Язык оригинала: Русский #8
uriart Banned Регистрация: 05.06.2008 Адрес: UKRAINE Сообщений: 8,039 Спасибо: 5,979 Поблагодарили 7,016 раз(а) в 2,462 сообщениях Репутация: 12460	BAGIRA, you should not trust such dubious auctions. Free cheese zaete where? That's right, it is there! Ask before you buy and we will try to help. Least uberezhem from outright fakes.

07.02.2010, 21:02	Язык оригинала: Русский #9
BAGIRA Местный Регистрация: 04.02.2010 Сообщений: 129 Спасибо: 420 Поблагодарили 98 раз(а) в 32 сообщениях Репутация: 196	Thank you, uriart! Now I agree with you, but I want to say that I do not have free cheese, unfortunately I paid dearly. But is not the point. On the same day (April 2008) I did not know about the existence of your site. Thanks for offer of assistance, be sure to use it. Unfortunately from the Russian works in the collection only Murtazin I.Kh. "Autumn", the rest is not ours. Will be time, gradually will consult with you. Thanks again for your kind words. Maiga.