Vanguard: young and perky

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Сообщение от Fed

You are a lucky man. I see here only outrageous inability, who studied the artist. If you see the good in this, the real work you do should lead to ecstasy.

Thank you, I'm really happy man. The fact that these work, I deal exclusively with the position of contemporary art, where, in fact, painting is not as important as the idea itself. The idea Shubin - is narcissism raised to the cult of personality. All that was happening to her - all worthy of its attention and the viewer. Here we are concerned not so much a woman's mark on the painting (so-called women's painting), but the woman in the painting. As you know, the theme of the role of women in art is relevant.

Yes, I was really really good work resulted in ecstasy - it's true. And I excite the idea that these works can be with me. I do not want to brag, but some of those whom I admire, yet I have

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I can, but I was the topic was somehow not invited to speak about these young artists and, in his opinion, provocative. And others, too, as I remember ...
He undertook to show their work. In his opinion, deserving of attention.
I look at them and myself for this to work, though not large, perhaps, thank you.
And who really believe, and from watching what things come into ecstasy I will not. Or is it a discussion you call it?
And the theme of Opening of the exhibition RESTART in Odessa is not the first, which discusses the work of Ukrainian contemporary authors.
For example, Masha Shubina dedicated an entire issue Masha Shubina:
http://forum.artinvestment.ru/showth...B8%D0%BD%D0%B0
And so on for many young Ukrainian authors.

Cyril, the fact of the matter is that I would like to know the opinion of everyone who is interested in contemporary art. Since you are in the subject, and to the same guru, the best of all I would be interested to hear your opinion about the Ukrainian authors and about the Ukrainian art in general. It would be kind of you, if you laid out the work of those authors who you personally like

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Сообщение от Fed

You are not thinking about communications opponent - my view was expressed above: "I see here only outrageous inability, who studied the artist."
   "Why do you my opinion - you have entered the debate, which involves saying any kind of opinion. Moreover, the presented work is only interested in the mind for the game to discuss them.

I have long tried to understand this dislike for the artist. I have two options:

1. Her dislike our colleagues for her marketing;
2. Her fans disliked the traditional school of painting.

Which option you can include, Fed? If neither one of them, please describe why it is you do not like? I repeat: I have not once thought about why she might not like it, so I'm interested in this phenomenon.

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Сообщение от public

It would be kind of you, if you laid out the work of those authors who you personally like them

I, of course, there are "pets"-authors from Ukraine.
But it is not young authors.
They are already quite well known and do not know how much they now look lively.

Сообщение от public

Since you are in the subject, and to the same guru, the best of all I would be interested to hear your opinion about the Ukrainian authors and about the Ukrainian art in general.

No, I'm just not in the theme of modern Ukrainian art, just try this on "enter", but because I look and read more.
I'm afraid that specifically for young authors, I will not say much.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

I, of course, there are "pets"-authors from Ukraine.
But it is not young authors.
They are already quite well known and do not know how much they now look lively.

No, I'm just not in the theme of modern Ukrainian art, just try this on "enter", but because I look and read more.
I'm afraid that specifically for young authors, I will not say much.

And who of famous artists you like? Maybe you can find a little time to tell why they show what most of you had to taste. Thanks in advance

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Сообщение от SAH

I would not say that I like or dislike the creativity Sh just what I saw I did not "shall", not mine. I have a steady, calm attitude, but it's not mine.

Thank you for your honest answer. I understand what you are when you say "not mine". In general, something from the works of contemporary authors do you like?

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Сообщение от artcol

Does anyone know that shown on the third picture?

yes, it is water bulbulyator. useful thing in life. is inclined to believe those who smokes

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[QUOTE=Fed;888762] You know very well that every man sees what he wants to see. Again, we appreciate the picture on the basis of our requests psihoemotsionalnom plan. If you get the pleasure of scales, the picture or something, then the minority, unfortunately, evaluate contemporary art from a position of relevance. Here, I must say that many works of those that I have laid out, meet me in spirit - is a dynamic, ever-changing reality, the symbols of time in which I live. I can watch the work of recognized masters 16-18 century in the museum, to admire, but to have these works, I would not want to. How would you explain it properly ... I want to surround themselves with things real, relevant, and not the museum, separated from the present day. In fact, nothing centuries later does not change, but on the other hand - look at the work Shubina. I do not think so? I find. I find the smell of hair, when I look at working with a close-up neck. I did not find when I look at the work of Titian. This is a special feeling when you can feel the work. When the author refers the spirit of the times, maybe not always correct from the standpoint of pictorial practice, I understand that the work or the author - me.

Well, "gresivnoe manifestation of primitivism and vulgarization" I am to understand myself as a waiver of nagramozhdeniya surplus meanings and a departure from the long aesthetization Supertask art.

I am not an apologist for creativity Masha Shubina. Frankly, I myself originally also hostile to this author with the same language as you. While I have not come to understand that painting and contemporary art, even at a medium - the canvas - this is not the same thing. And, of course, there can not remember how Gelman, once said, "When you look 1 thousand works, you become a connoisseur, 2-3 thousand - an expert - and so Here, I agreed with him, because it really is. This does not affect your personal preference, but at least it gives you answers to many questions about the artistic practice

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And who of famous artists you like?

I like the artists, whose creative peak came in 60-80-e gg ..
Alexander Roitburd, Leo Mezhberg, Aleksand Anufriev, Valentin Khrushch, Lyudmila Hawk.
Here, somehow ...
Nothing original, many of these authors can be called.
A very young I did not know, honestly.
I say so, already tested by time interesting.

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Сообщение от public

I have long tried to understand this dislike for the artist. I have two options:

1. Her dislike our colleagues for her marketing;
2. Her fans disliked the traditional school of painting.

I would not say that I like or dislike the creativity Sh just what I saw I was not "shall", not mine. I have a steady, calm attitude, but it's not mine.

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2. Her fans disliked the traditional school of painting.
 tell us in detail why it is you do not like? I am interested in this phenomenon.

   If you're talking about the phenomenon, as difficult to grasp the fact, the phenomenon is absent, I have not seen any positive statements about the work Shubina. The best and most accurate, "Shubin in the tradition of European kitsch art. Why most accurate - "Kitsch-mass-culture, pseudo-synonym. Agresivnoe manifestation of primitivism and vulgarization."
It can be seen for agresivnuyu primitivism and dislike.
 Although I prefer the simple view: "Drawn slabovavto. The level and style of the artist-draftsman posters 70-xx years. So much loot as requested, certainly not worth it. It's for suckers. Much Ado About Nothing.
 Relationship to the traditional, alternative schools, it has nothing new or surprising it did not. Some people collect kaprolity and even frame them in gold, but how would they repeated that it is amazing jewelry, few kupyatsya. Let nekupivshihsya called reactionaries, but they were calmer with diamonds, emeralds. But the market "kaprolitov" also exists, and all right, although traders in this market got stories that the rest of the fool, although I understand that this is the effective part of the script for razvodilovu.