What distinguishes the true artist from not present?

[Marta]

I think the "real" artist or not does not depend on its way of life (propensity for publicity or seclusion), and even from his state of mind (if he has a dream, obsession, etc.), but only on the result of his work.
 If it is clear that the work of professional, that invested in its creation of emotional and /or intellectual powers (not just the result of professional waste "manufacturing" process), then the artist is quite real.

[artcol]

I will propose his own version of PC (it is very short):
HX - X is the one who knows what does and (therefore) is responsible for what he does.

Ie chief criterion nastoyaschnosti is seriousness in relation to their work.

More shl lapidary: This - this is where the really, seriously.

[Posav]

Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

Who is this?
What are the "symbolist" is?

 They seemed to forget that there was a user, an artist representing appolinary style Visionary art?

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Сообщение от artcol

This - this is where the really, seriously.

- And so, to really - it is not. Torment themselves, as under the czarist regime. (c)

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Сообщение от Posav

They seemed to forget that there was such an artist representing the style visionary?

Lord, so you'd have said, and then the "symbolism"!
Bryusov I immediately remembered the good by his house-museum on Meshchanskaya (now Mira Ave) every day, visiting the Moscow pass.

[iside]

Сообщение от Posav

I do not understand what a blunder you wrote. Of those few artists who are constantly on the forum no one other critics did not. I have not seen this

Mr. Posav, if you did not see it, it's your problem. In any case, will ask you to contact me personally and to the other ladies present at the forum in a dignified manner.

[Buscador]

Сообщение от Peter

This artist is the one who has a dream, who did not break down under the pressure of life circumstances who are not sold his soul to the golden calf

A good proposition, but it fits rather good man than a good artist. You can recall a number of stories, when great artists, musicians, actors ... and broke, and sold ... But their works live on and remain in the stories they (the work), but not the unseemly facts of life ...
For me a good artist - is primarily a specialist, speaks perfect their profession (nobody argues. That is a profession). Here I see an objective factor. And then flights of fantasy and the like - as a subjective factor. Good - one that can do well, what should I do a professional.

[Posav]

Сообщение от iside

Mr. Posav,.

Mrs. Iside, please explain to me why did I not understand. Why should immediately take offense?

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Marta

I think the "real" artist or not does not depend on its way of life (propensity for publicity or seclusion), and even from his state of mind (if he has a dream, obsession, etc.), and only on the result of his work.
 If it is clear that the work of professional, that invested in its creation of emotional and /or intellectual powers (not just the result of professional waste "manufacturing" process), then the artist is quite real.

Sovershenno soglasen!

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Сообщение от artcol

I will propose his own version of PC (it is very short):
HX - X is the one who knows what does and (therefore) is responsible for what he does.

Ie chief criterion nastoyaschnosti is seriousness in relation to their work.

Ochen 'rad, chto vy tak dumaete.

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Сообщение от Buscador

For me a good (real), the artist - is primarily a specialist, speaks perfect their profession (nobody argues. That is a profession). Here I see an objective factor. And then flights of fantasy and the like - as a subjective factor. Good - one that can do well, what should be done by a professional.

Spasibo, eto prakticheski sovpadaet s moim mneniem.

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Sozdaiotsia vpechatlenie, chto my prihodim k obschemu znamenateliu v opredelenii nastoiaschego hudoznika.

Dlia tehniki est 'riad kriteriev ob'ektivnoi otsenki. Ishodia iz etogo, kolichestvo "nastoiaschih" hudoznikov znachitel'no umen'shitsia. V kavychki ia eto vzial, potomu, chto naprimer iz 250,000, zaregistrirovannyh hudoznikov v Au, pol'zuias' daze nastoiaschim, nesovershennym opredeleniem, uidiot v nebytiio protsentov 80-90.

A eto uze blize k istine.

[Posav]

Сообщение от AlexanderG

Sovershenno soglasen!

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Ochen 'rad, chto vy tak dumaete.

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Spasibo, eto prakticheski sovpadaet s moim mneniem.

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Sozdaiotsia vpechatlenie, chto my prihodim k obschemu znamenateliu v opredelenii nastoiaschego hudoznika.
Dlia tehniki est 'riad kriteriev ob'ektivnoi otsenki. .

According to these criteria Shilov and Safronov most real artists.

[AlexanderG]

Сообщение от Posav

According to these criteria Shilov and Safronov most real artists.

Nu eto uze personal'noe otnoshenie. Esli vy lichno ih ne liubite, eto ne delaet ih ne hudoznikami. Oni oba professional'nye hudozniki.

A kak by vy ih nazvali?

A esli by vy zili v renessanse, kak by vy nazvali kon'iunkturnyh hudoznikov togo vremeni?

Lichno dlia menia, esli by vybor stal Shilov i chelovek-sobaka, to ia by dva raza ne dumal .

Znaiu sravnil ne korrektno, odin hudoznik, a vtoroi sobaka.

Nu mozno drugoe imia privesti, oi politkorrektnost 'prosnulas'

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PS Pros'ba k administratsii: pozaluista razdelite ne nastoiaschii v zaglavii temy na dva slova. Dopustil oshibku, a kak ispravit 'ne znaiu