Vladimir Ovcharenko of the market of contemporary art in Russia

[AlexanderG]

Originally Posted by artcol

Still, perhaps, ask first ...

Vy popali v desiatku! Bytuiuschee vyrazenie: spros rozdaet predlozenie, v nastoiaschee vremia rabotaet ne tak, kak 100-200 let nazad.

Kak pokupatel 'mozet sprosit' o tovare, kotoryi on ne znaet? Vot zdes 'rol' marketinga absoliutna. Nado predstavit 'tovar pokupateliu, i razvit' rynok. V segodniashnem izobilii vsego, eto zadacha sloznaia.

Tak is kartinami - esli nikto ne znaet o suschestvovanii dannogo hudoznika, spros na ego kartiny=0.

Poetomu tovar otstupaet na zadnii plan, a informatsionnye sluzby zanimaiut dominantnuiu pozitsiiu.

Kstati, my medlenno peremeschaemsia v postindustrial'noe prostranstvo, tam eschio ne vsio opredeleno.

[LCR]

I do not think that applied to the art can be said that "demand breeds supply."

I do not deny nor the role of order or value of information (I'm not totally insane). But I would argue that art has its own specific laws, it is not a commodity in the conventional sense of the word. The artist, composer, writer become vocation.

In my vzgld, some people are born with the need to create, and then sometimes others, who are deprived of this ability, there is a desire to have it created.

Sometimes this need is not immediately recognized. That is why in the world was a lot of the superintendent, turned-artists, and a single artist, turned-superintendent

[AlexanderG]

Originally Posted by LCR

But I would argue that art has its own specific laws, it is not a commodity in the conventional sense of the word.

Popav na rynok - stanovitsia tovarom. V samom obschepriniatom smysle slova.

The artist, composer, writer become vocation.

A tak ze po semeinym sviaziam, po blatu, po sluchainosti.

In my vzgld, some people are born with the need to create,

Ochen 'daze mnogie, nekotorye sozdaiut gosudarstva, drugie revoliutsii, tret'i banki, chetviortye restorany. Duh sozidaniia neiskorenim.

 and then sometimes others, who are deprived of this ability, there is a desire to have it created.

Prosto est 'vozmoznost' prikupit 'vsio ostal'noe.

Sometimes this need is not immediately recognized. That is why in the world was a lot of the superintendent, turned-artists, and a single artist, turned-superintendent

Nado pokopat '! Ne veriu. Mnogie ushli v dizain, reklamu, i, dumaiu, v drugie oblasti, vkliuchaia upravdomov.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Originally Posted by AlexanderG

Mnogie ushli v dizain, reklamu, i, dumaiu, v drugie oblasti

Apartments repair.

Originally Posted by AlexanderG

vkliuchaia upravdomov

Who was able to stop drinking.

[AlexanderG]

Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

Flats repair.


Who was able to stop drinking.

Ia znal, ia znal !!

[artcol]

Originally Posted by AlexanderG

Bytuiuschee vyrazenie: spros rozdaet predlozenie, v nastoiaschee vremia rabotaet ne tak, kak 100-200 let nazad.

Now you can easily give way: the money give rise to demand and supply.

[Peter]

Originally Posted by artcol

can now be easily formulated as follows: birth to money demand and supply.

This sad fact reflects the level of contemporary art and lead to a further decline of culture in society, cultural degradation.

[Кирилл Сызранский]

Originally Posted by Peter

This is a sad fact reflects the level of contemporary art and lead to a further decline of culture in society, cultural degradation.

I do not know on what level of culture you say, but if you take the 80's. The twentieth century in the USSR and then compare the level of culture and today, the comparison will not be making your past.
There's just wild in cultural terms, people lived on now.

[Peter]

Originally Posted by Cyril Syzransky

I do not know on what level of culture you say, but if you take the 80's. The twentieth century in the USSR and then compare the level of culture and today, the comparison will not be making your past.
There's just wild in cultural terms, people lived on now.

I think that if money is not so much pressure to bear on consciousness and if you do not take into account the "official culture" that a whole society was culturally healthy, although less informironno than seychas.A wild people lived in the early 90's in Russia. (However are the same people, only prioretety in society changed.) Well, if the USSR was so bad with the culture, it is not sold to individual paintings of that period is now so expensive, and some galleries in general would have to close.

[AlexanderG]

Originally Posted by Peter

I think that if money is not so much pressure to bear on consciousness

S etim ia polnost'iu soglasen, no v dannyi moment ekonomicheskie i politicheskie usloviia drugie. Nel'zia igrat 'v poker po pravilam duraka.