Forgery paintings Burliuk at Four Corners

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Tana, thanks!
All looked-remembered.

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Сообщение от ForVlad

"cursory catalog" Oleg Tsi immediately identified the alleged forgery of Burliuk.

If you "nebeglo" look at this whole topic, you will understand the level of Oleg Tsi.

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

If you "nebeglo" look at this whole topic, then I'll level Oleg Tsi.

Yes I do "fluent" enough, what I do. And since the discussion began with the work located in my collection, then I can tell a word read quite carefully. But in addition, that some Oleg Tsi is interested in the work of many artists, including David Burlyuk has a lot of literature on its artistic heritage, is familiar with his background, something that sells, buys ( vobschem how many) nothing else saw. I just do not know him personally, do not read his scientific works, do not know his rank, etc. I'm just very surprised not a professional approach to the assessment of human authenticity of a work. Actually this was my previous post.

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Сообщение от ForVlad

But in addition, that a certain Oleg Tsi interested in the work of many artists, including David Burlyuk has a lot of literature on its artistic heritage, is familiar with his background, something that sells, buys (as vobschem and many) did not see anything else.

You have listed a lot to have to listen to the opinion of such party.

Сообщение от ForVlad

will begin a certain left-right to scream about "counterfeit", proslyvet type expert and connoisseur, and then he and pritorgovyvaet obvious fakes.

I guess it does play, but this party I have not heard of proposals to buy him something or ...
But the money back for false Burliuk this "zkspert and expert" has helped our party, for which he and he and all interested parties are grateful. One for the money, the rest of science.

Сообщение от ForVlad

Yes I do "fluent" enough, what I do.

And this is very good.
So you and are familiar with the opinion of members of Professor Gorbachev, who signed at the conclusion of the D. Burliuk, "work located in my collection, as you report.
If you have not read, then you are waiting for interesting exciting discoveries.

Oh, how wonderful discoveries we
Prepare the spirit of enlightenment,
And the experience, the son of errors difficult
And the genius, the paradoxes of one ... (c)

[Vladimir]

ForVlad, tidy up the second part of your message. Your emotions are understandable, but please immediately refrain from insulting allusions. It's not good. You might not know this. It is better to calmly tell me how you explain the apparent similarity between houses?

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Concerning expert Dmitry Gorbachev Yemelyanovich. The forum had several posts about it, some very sarcastic, if not insulting, the distinguished expert. Some dear forum users have not heard about it. Generally, there is information on the attribution D. E. Gorbachev's well-known auction sites. For example:

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...&iSaleNo=14974

http://www.macdougallauction.com/cat...l.asp? id=4020

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...aleSectionNo=1

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...aleSectionNo=1

http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/publi...aleSectionNo=1
(Information on atributatore listed at the bottom of pages)

There are a lot of films D. E. Gorbachev's well-known artists: Exter, Malevich, Bogomazova, etc. (you can see online: http://www.keytoart.org.ua/russian/films.htm )

D. E. Gorbachev is the author of many books on avant-garde art (not only), such as "Masterpieces of Ukrainian painting. Alimpiy From the Crypt to Kazimir Malevich. Ukrainian painting of the last millennium, nearly 600-page folio (Kiev, 2009, ISBN 978-966 -577-143-2, http://www.keytoart.org.ua/russian/E...blications.htm), nearly 500 page unit monograph "Alexandra Exter, released in France in 2003 (ISBN 2-914388-27-6, co-author, http://www.keytoart.org.ua/russian/w/exter.htm) and many others.

Prof. D. E. Gorbachev participates in scientific conferences, for example, at Harvard in April 2007 was his report on the conference "Ukrainian Modernism in Context, 1910-1930": http://www.huri.harvard.edu/na/ukr_m...4_15apr07.html, also
Harvard April 22, 2005 report, a film D. Gorbachev Malevich selyansky ": http://www.huri.harvard.edu/na/cal_spring_05.html.
Photo D. Gorbachev, as the existence of the expert, as it may seem strange to some forumchan, there is a collective picture of conference participants at Harvard, 2007. on the front page of the newspaper at Harvard (you can see in priattachennom file).

Relatively atributirovaniya D. E. Gorbachev works by Malevich. There are nearly 500 page based monograph D. Gorbachev Malevich and Ukraine (Kiev. 2006. 456 pages. ISBN: 966-96670-0-3), in which he first informs the world community about the correct date of birth of the famous artist - 1879 (this information is was found in the archives of Kiev). This discovery and this book has information on Wikipedia. About the book:
http://www.keytoart.org.ua/russian/p....&.ukraine.htm

Finally, there is a two-volume edition of Malevich about yourself. Contemporaries of Malevich. Letters. Documents. Memories. Criticism ", the authors - from the Tretyakov Gallery - MI Waqar, T. Mihienko. (edition 2004, ISBN 5-269-01028-3). In the more than 1200 page book the authors present information about those who participated in the publication of this work, which reported on the art Gorbachev DE (photo from the book can be seen, and who has this publication may be viewed and the book itself).

[OlegTsi]

ForVlad,

Well, again went to the new wave, once again, comes back to the past.

Frankly, I expected that appear at the forum the owner of this masterpiece, but thought that with a 4-month delay after the auction at the Four Corners. For the new owner of these 4 months is not in his favor. Why - it is clear to many.

Dear ForVlad. Whatever words you do not have expressed to me that you would not compose for me even in theory or in their fantasies, this is, in fact, has no value. What matters is that you are now very large framed Dmitry Yemelyanovich, giving him his job and, of course, showed him reproductions of original works Burliuk sold in 2005 at Sotheby's in New York. Gorbachev is a very famous professor and a prominent specialist in the field of Ukrainian Avant-Garde 1910-1930 period, and therefore demand that it is absolutely professional expert advice on the later period of American creativity Burliuk would not be very ethical.

The fact that you now write on the forum, read the many and draw their own conclusions. Apparently, you were quick with my purchase. While asserting that nothing fluently do not. Doing and have done. I have registered on the forum with only one purpose - to bring to the forum interesting and valuable information to those who need it, to share their experiences and knowledge, to prevent the sale of counterfeit work and, of course, to learn something for themselves. The benefit really is, many do not buy the fabrications, but some people got rid of me, forgery detection, and got his big money back. But on top, too, was active resistance, even attempts to abuse, but now it's different, I publicly thank.

Something would be shorter, and not divert the attention of many forumchan, I can foresee two possible outcomes in this topic:

anything you try to recover their money to sell you a fake, and this will help you a lot of this discussion;

- Either you stay with your new acquisition, which will be "proud" to submit your collection. And all the papers, conclusions and so on and so forth will please only you.

Even if you try to find an additional option and sell the work - it will be difficult, because this false path that offers no joy to anyone, especially since so many art-lovers familiar with the topic and made their definite conclusions.

You decide, after all you have eyes, carefully compare your work with the original, but also keep in mind the fact that the original for the purchase of this work in London, was paid a lot of thousands of dollars more ($ 42,286 + customs, etc.) than was from the Four Corners after the sale the previous owner.

http://www.sothebys.com/app/ecatalog...L&SIZE=smaller

We talked a lot about fakes Burliuk known works, which are also sold at various auctions. Especially you, ForVlad, demonstrating some of them repeatedly. Uspekhi, ForVlad

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Сообщение от Cyril Syzransky

So you and are familiar with the opinion of members of Professor Gorbachev, who signed at the conclusion of the DA Burliuk, "work located in my collection, as you report.
If you have not read, then you are waiting for interesting exciting discoveries.

Oh yes when they met Dmitry Yemelianovich, have described that some believe it does not exist, that its book publishing group of the authors, and Gorbachev is just an alias of the group.

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Сообщение от OlegTsi

The important thing is that you are now very large framed Dmitry Yemelyanovich, giving him his job and, of course, showed him reproductions of original works Burliuk sold in 2005 at Sotheby's in New York.

You are wrong here, as in many other findings. And this work of which you speak Dmitry Yemelianovich seen, and a printout I brought him.

[OlegTsi]

Сообщение от ForVlad

and here you are wrong, as in many other findings. And this work of which you speak Dmitry Yemelianovich seen, and a printout I brought him.

All the more sad.

Well, nevertheless, if you are satisfied with your purchase and do not see the difference between the two works and you do not care - then enjoy it. Many people do this, for 1 /3 price of buying a fake, and hang it on the wall and all his friends and acquaintances, who represent it as the original.

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Сообщение от OlegTsi

Something to be shorter, and not divert the attention of many forumchan, I can foresee two possible outcomes in this topic:

anything you try to recover their money to sell you a fake, and this will help you a lot of this discussion;

- Either you stay with your new acquisition, which will be "proud" to submit your collection. And all the papers, conclusions and so on and so forth will please only you.

 Yes I do know that there are people who will never admit their mistakes, you are probably one of them.

[OlegTsi]

ForVlad, success to you. No longer wishes to continue this theme, because you chose to rely on number 2.

Time passes and you know who would admit a mistake. Prove that something has no sense, you can use the freedom of speech and writing to me what you want. I wanted to help - not turned out well and do not.